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March 14th, 2014, 08:25 PM
#41
Has too much time on their hands
Still haven't heard back from the "ask a CO" on this, so I might be proven wrong...
I understand the idea of doing everything you can to be 100% legal, but sometimes over-interpretation of the regs goes a little too far. I'm confident that the intention of the law in this case is simply to make sure that big game hunters wear a hat and a vest at minimum. Using another vest to cover your pack, blaze orange packs, etc., is just going above and beyond what is required. If you feel that if makes you even more safe, have at it.
Hunting is supposed to be enjoyable, don't get hung up on over-interpreting things. Read the regs and use common sense. There are so many gray areas when it comes to fish and game laws that if a CO was just out to lay a charge, he'll probably find something anyway.
Does anyone have any real examples of warnings or fines due to blaze orange being covered by a backpack? I've never heard of any, and we've run into a few in the field while deer or moose hunting with backpacks over vests.
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March 14th, 2014 08:25 PM
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March 14th, 2014, 08:38 PM
#42
Well if you are following the rules just to say you follow the rules I guess you could argue ad Trimmer did...
As for tg e guys pinning flags or vests or covers/shells etc over their otherwise coloured vest...don't you find they snag up on things?
I have a nice blaze orange pack that is a fleece type outer material. No extra snags, quiet material. I like to go off trail and hate when things are loud or get snagged.
FW
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March 14th, 2014, 09:32 PM
#43
Why would anyone want to compromise their personal safety by covering their hunter orange vest with a non hunter orange back pack, at least have enough common sense to pin a piece of blaze orange material onto the pack! Just because you think you're right doesn't make you bulletproof
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!
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March 14th, 2014, 10:19 PM
#44
Originally Posted by
jlmorgan
Why would anyone want to compromise their personal safety by covering their hunter orange vest with a non hunter orange back pack, at least have enough common sense to pin a piece of blaze orange material onto the pack! Just because you think you're right doesn't make you bulletproof
Neither does blaze orange,no matter where you wear it. If someone can show the section and paragraph of the FWCA where it says we MUST wear a blaze orange back pack or where it says,specifically, that wearing a back pack that partially covers the blaze orange is prohibited,please show me. I know it's not there,anywhere,therefore,it's NOT illegal and NOT required. Anything else is simply hair-splitting or over analyzing and completely useless rhetoric.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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March 14th, 2014, 11:18 PM
#45
Originally Posted by
trimmer21
I know it's not there,anywhere,therefore,it's NOT illegal and NOT required. Anything else is simply hair-splitting or over analyzing and completely useless rhetoric.
I think it can be summed up in one word? ANAL! There seems to be a few that fit this description on more than a few topics?
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March 15th, 2014, 09:08 AM
#46
Originally Posted by
topher
Would my pack have to be hunter orange? As it would cover the orange on my back? Would make sense.. However haven't been able to find anything that requires me to wear orange back pack..
From all the posts, and what I read in the regs, the short answer is No. Personal choice prevails after that.
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March 15th, 2014, 09:30 AM
#47
I have a back pack ( forget the brand off hand) but it's all camo and the rain cover for it is BLAZE orange which tucks up in the bottom of the pack held closed by magnets......best hunting pack I've owned. I'll try and find the brand and throw it up here. Also a nice bonus is that it's ment to carry your bow or gun on the back of the pack also.
Cheers Ian
"Do it today, tomorrow it might be illegal..."
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March 15th, 2014, 04:54 PM
#48
Has too much time on their hands
Originally Posted by
jlmorgan
Why would anyone want to compromise their personal safety by covering their hunter orange vest with a non hunter orange back pack, at least have enough common sense to pin a piece of blaze orange material onto the pack! Just because you think you're right doesn't make you bulletproof
If I truly thought that my personal safety was being compromised by covering a small portion of my glaringly visible orange with a backpack, then I've got much bigger problems. Common sense would have me looking for new hunting partners or a new place to hunt.
"where a man feels at home, outside of where he's born, is where he's meant to go"
- Ernest Hemingway
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March 15th, 2014, 05:00 PM
#49
Originally Posted by
GW11
If I truly thought that my personal safety was being compromised by covering a small portion of my glaringly visible orange with a backpack, then I've got much bigger problems. Common sense would have me looking for new hunting partners or a new place to hunt.
which part of hunter orange vest didn't you see
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!
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March 20th, 2014, 02:50 PM
#50
Originally Posted by
thunderbelly
From all the posts, and what I read in the regs, the short answer is No. Personal choice prevails after that.
I disagree, regs state how many square inches of blaze orange you must have. If you cover it, then you don't meet that criteria. If it did, I would wear blaze orange underwear and undershirt, and be legal and wear full camo on the exterior.
Whether a CO would actually do the calculations to see if you meet the requirements or not, is subject to debate, but intentionally covering a safety item and thinking you still meet the requirements won't end well in my opinion.
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