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March 26th, 2014, 04:53 PM
#31

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
YThis case has garnered
public attention,therefore its on the radar of the MNR,the Press,and dog/animal lovers.
Jolanta Kowalski really goofed when she came out with the comments about the MNR "dispatching" the dogs. Whether she was correct or not, it was the callous way she stated it. It raised a lot of hackles and the fact that her boss, David Orazietti MPP for the Sault and Minister of Natural Resources lives here probably had something to do with this turn of events.
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March 26th, 2014 04:53 PM
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March 26th, 2014, 05:00 PM
#32
MNR media people don't goof. These days they aren't allowed even to sneeze without approval from Queens Park. The last time I had to get answers from MNR on a story it took about three weeks for them to answer about five questions. I know of someone else who asked MNR a question about hibernation in bears (forget exactly what) and had to wait weeks for the Queens-Park-approved answer, a if the biology of bears is some kind of political hot potato.
You can bet Kowalski wasn't speaking off the cuff. Probably the goal was to get people to understand that dogs chasing deer is a serious thing.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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March 26th, 2014, 06:09 PM
#33
There was a situation about a week ago with dogs and deer . Initially I thought they were one and the same but this one happened in Kenora .
http://www.kenoradailyminerandnews.c...ogs-in-a-month
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March 26th, 2014, 07:09 PM
#34
I think Gov't media people goof all the time. They're only spewing info they get from so-called knowledgeable people. Case in point: 3 lynx shot on the outskirts of Timmins by Timmins police. Residents were quite upset over these cullings and started getting on MNR about trapping and relocating.
Yolanta says its not practical to live trap lynx because its too difficult.
So, 2 live trapped lynx later by the Timmins fur council now has MNR stumbling for the correct press release.
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March 26th, 2014, 07:39 PM
#35
What I mean is not that they never make mistakes, but that they don't goof in the way that was implied: i.e. they don't say things off the cuff without checking with someone higher up.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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March 26th, 2014, 07:47 PM
#36

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
Jolanta Kowalski really goofed when she came out with the comments about the MNR "dispatching" the dogs. Whether she was correct or not, it was the callous way she stated it. It raised a lot of hackles and the fact that her boss, David Orazietti MPP for the Sault and Minister of Natural Resources lives here probably had something to do with this turn of events.
Yeh she goofed up and I think she was trying to hard to explain to the public about the dire consequences of letting a dog run deer out of season.Right away she has a million dog lovers after her when in fact she should be targeting the so called owners of the dogs.She might also have been trying to expel any suggestions wolves were responsible.
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March 26th, 2014, 07:56 PM
#37
[QUOTE=400bigbear;775832]There was a situation about a week ago with dogs and deer . Initially I thought they were one and the same but this one happened in Kenora .
http://www.kenoradailyminerandnews.c...ogs-in-a-month
Well this story is about stray dogs suspected to be off a local first nations reserve,the band Chief does not sound real concerned and puts the blame on band members,maybe,and townsfolk who drop off unwanted dogs in his area.If its to expensive to spay and neuter them and they are causing a problem,them they may need to cull them period.
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March 26th, 2014, 08:51 PM
#38

Originally Posted by
welsh
What I mean is not that they never make mistakes, but that they don't goof in the way that was implied: i.e. they don't say things off the cuff without checking with someone higher up.
They probably don't, and that certainly explains the cut n dried comments she spewed. She would or couldn't even realize what she was actually saying. She simply said verbatim what someone else above her told her to say? Makes for a great media relations person? "Don't speak or say anything until we tell you what to say" "say it exactly as we tell you to" "Don't think, just do what you're told". and on 'n' on 'n' on........
No Welsh, she goofed for sure and her bosses are scrambling in damage control.
Geez, in my job, my boss tells me what needs to be done, and then it's up to me to get it done the best way possible without them micromanaging.
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March 26th, 2014, 08:56 PM
#39

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
Yeh she goofed up and I think she was trying to hard to explain to the public about the dire consequences of letting a dog run deer out of season.Right away she has a million dog lovers after her when in fact she should be targeting the so called owners of the dogs.She might also have been trying to expel any suggestions wolves were responsible.
I could just hear Orazietti scrambling for the phone. "Dont' shoot those dogs!!! Whatever you do, don't shoot those dogs!!!" He is a liberal after all and needs to try and hold his riding? (sorry Gilroy, just had to say that
) And he has family that lives directly in that same neighborhood as the incident took place.
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March 26th, 2014, 10:12 PM
#40

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
She simply said verbatim what someone else above her told her to say? Makes for a great media relations person?
As I said, it takes weeks to get responses to media questions out of MNR. Everything goes through Toronto. Nobody tells you anything off the cuff anymore. You can bet what she said was in line with a guideline. That's how they work these days.
This is first-hand experience speaking.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)