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April 26th, 2014, 12:16 PM
#51
That's a misleading statement. While malicious prosecution is not a criminal code offence, it is a tort, meaning that the law recognizes that the victim has been harmed, and allows him to sue for damages. He can also bring a complaint of misconduct under the Police Services Act.
So to say there is no such offence is only half true.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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April 26th, 2014 12:16 PM
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April 26th, 2014, 12:22 PM
#52

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Nope, no such offence.
Exactly,but,if he/she continues and has enough charges dismissed,they won't get away with it for long.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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April 26th, 2014, 12:44 PM
#53

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
Exactly,but,if he/she continues and has enough charges dismissed,they won't get away with it for long.
But if the defendant pays the ticket, even guilty with an explanation, then the charges aren't exactly dismissed.....Charges that probably wouldn't have been laid by a local CO against a local sportsman....
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April 26th, 2014, 02:02 PM
#54

Originally Posted by
welsh
That's a misleading statement. While malicious prosecution is not a criminal code offence, it is a tort, meaning that the law recognizes that the victim has been harmed, and allows him to sue for damages. He can also bring a complaint of misconduct under the Police Services Act.
So to say there is no such offence is only half true.
The response was to an ascertion that malicious prosecution was a criminal code offence.....there is no such offence. Where is the "half truth".
Further, the Police Services Act has absolutely nothing to do with CO's.
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April 26th, 2014, 02:39 PM
#55

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
The response was to an ascertion that malicious prosecution was a criminal code offence.....there is no such offence. Where is the "half truth".
To say that there is no such offence implies that writing a ticket, knowing the charge to be false, is within the law. It is not, and you know it. So the statement is a half-truth: it makes an implication by omitting known facts that contradict that implication.
You're right re the Police Services Act. But I doubt that a CO who makes a habit of writing false tickets is going to enjoy a long career if that comes to light, regardless.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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April 26th, 2014, 02:59 PM
#56

Originally Posted by
Pat32rf
But if the defendant pays the ticket, even guilty with an explanation, then the charges aren't exactly dismissed.....Charges that probably wouldn't have been laid by a local CO against a local sportsman....
That's quite true,Pat. Most hunters will just eat it rather than contest it. That's why it's important that everyone who's certain that's what's happening always says "I'll also need a certified copy of your evidence for disclosure. I won't be in Court that day,but,my lawyer will be,so,see ya there........and there won't be any continuance,either." Then,DO it.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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April 26th, 2014, 03:23 PM
#57

Originally Posted by
welsh
To say that there is no such offence implies that writing a ticket, knowing the charge to be false, is within the law. It is not, and you know it. So the statement is a half-truth: it makes an implication by omitting known facts that contradict that implication.
You're right re the Police Services Act. But I doubt that a CO who makes a habit of writing false tickets is going to enjoy a long career if that comes to light, regardless.
My statement that there is no such offence implies nothing. It was merely in response to an earlier statement that malicious prosecution was an offence in the criminal code. It is not. Had the OP requested clarification, I would most certainly have done that. But then that would have deprived you of the opportunity of attempting to correct my post !
Last edited by rick_iles; April 26th, 2014 at 03:28 PM.
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April 26th, 2014, 03:32 PM
#58
Sorry guys. I was wrong about the criminal code. Here is what I was remembering and getting mixed up with the code.
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April 26th, 2014, 03:48 PM
#59
Rick, you're being needlessly argumentative. In fact, in my original response I acknowledged that it's not in the Criminal Code. I was simply clarifying that it is indeed a tort, and you have chosen to take offence.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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April 26th, 2014, 04:01 PM
#60

Originally Posted by
welsh
Rick, you're being needlessly argumentative. In fact, in my original response I acknowledged that it's not in the Criminal Code. I was simply clarifying that it is indeed a tort, and you have chosen to take offence.
Well Welsh, some here take offence to your continual condescension ! Cheers !