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April 28th, 2014, 05:30 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
Pat32rf
Another one of those specific exemptions to the general rules, like the 303 SMLEs....
On a side note this exemption is pointless and speaks to the fact that people with no knowledge of firearms wrote our laws. The 303 SMLE is a bolt action, and thus by default doesnt need any exemption. No bolt actions have magazine restrictions. So here we have an exemption from a law that doesnt even exist.
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April 28th, 2014 05:30 PM
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April 29th, 2014, 06:38 AM
#12
Actually it's not the bolt action 303, but the fact that there WAS an autoloader made that took the same magazine as one of the SMLEs. This made the SMLE mags prohibited until they were exempted. Much the same as those ten shot mags that fit the Remington pumps became prohibited when it was found that they also fit the Rem autos. Those mags stayed on the prohib list however....
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April 29th, 2014, 07:10 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
Pat32rf
Actually it's not the bolt action 303, but the fact that there WAS an autoloader made that took the same magazine as one of the SMLEs. This made the SMLE mags prohibited until they were exempted. Much the same as those ten shot mags that fit the Remington pumps became prohibited when it was found that they also fit the Rem autos. Those mags stayed on the prohib list however....
Well there you go. Learn something new....
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April 29th, 2014, 07:33 AM
#14

Originally Posted by
Pat32rf
In any regs that I have read, they talk about center fire auto loading rifles with REMOVABLE magazines being pined to five. That is why a ten shot mag is the prohibited device, not the rifle. Various old Remington autos had tube mags that are not removable, the same as the original SKS mags.
While these may have held more than five rounds, you could not drop in a new mag for a continuos barrage while holding off the good guys. This was the original purpose of the law.
Here is the list of prohibited firearms and magazines in Canada.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/r.../fulltext.html
The Lee Enfield rifle did have a semi-automatic rifle that was made to use the same magazines, but due to the age and lack of standard lower capacity magazines I bet this is why the exception is there.
The M1 Garand used an 8 round enbloc, but now people make a 5 round enbloc due to some hunting restrictions around the world and this exception has not changed with that.
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April 29th, 2014, 04:56 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
Pat32rf
Actually it's not the bolt action 303, but the fact that there WAS an autoloader made that took the same magazine as one of the SMLEs. This made the SMLE mags prohibited until they were exempted. Much the same as those ten shot mags that fit the Remington pumps became prohibited when it was found that they also fit the Rem autos. Those mags stayed on the prohib list however....
Which semi auto rifle was it? Never knew there was one that took the Lee Enfield mag.
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April 29th, 2014, 07:26 PM
#16
Was some scheme back during the war to provide auto loading capability to the Allied forces. There was also the famous Pederson device that fit on the actual SMLEs to convert them to fire a shorter cartridge at auto speeds. Neither one was a real success and both bring sky hi prices to collectors today.
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April 29th, 2014, 09:21 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
Pat32rf
Was some scheme back during the war to provide auto loading capability to the Allied forces. There was also the famous Pederson device that fit on the actual SMLEs to convert them to fire a shorter cartridge at auto speeds. Neither one was a real success and both bring sky hi prices to collectors today.
It was probably the Charlton rifle. I didn't realize it could accept a Lee Enfield mag till I looked it up. I only saw pictures of it with the Bren gun mag.
The Pederson Device was actually for the Springfield 03 rifle.
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April 30th, 2014, 06:22 AM
#18
The Pederson Device was actually for the Springfield 03 rifle.[/QUOTE]
That's right, I'm wrong.....There were quite a few inventions caused by the gun shortage during both main wars. Didn't realize that the SMLE rifles were still in active government use, here in Canada. I thought they were phased out a few years ago. That's probably where all the old MIL-SPEC 303 ammo went...LOL
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April 30th, 2014, 07:08 AM
#19

Originally Posted by
Pat32rf
The Pederson Device was actually for the Springfield 03 rifle.
That's right, I'm wrong.....There were quite a few inventions caused by the gun shortage during both main wars. Didn't realize that the SMLE rifles were still in active government use, here in Canada. I thought they were phased out a few years ago. That's probably where all the old MIL-SPEC 303 ammo went...LOL[/QUOTE]
The Rangers actually are issues FMJ and SP. The SMLE is designed for such crappy conditions that is works perfectly up there.
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April 30th, 2014, 07:32 AM
#20
I thought the rangers used No4Mk1?