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    May be more to the story....they are not allowed to sell partial boxes of the tic/flea stuff...so some times it works out to get the vet tech to dispense it (by law) and get only what you need.

    I had a Large breed pup that needed only 2 doses in one weight category and then the rest of the summer he was going on to a larger dose. So they recommended coming in for the two instead of buying a whole box.

    Possibly something similar with that scenario....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    May be more to the story....they are not allowed to sell partial boxes of the tic/flea stuff...so some times it works out to get the vet tech to dispense it (by law) and get only what you need.

    I had a Large breed pup that needed only 2 doses in one weight category and then the rest of the summer he was going on to a larger dose. So they recommended coming in for the two instead of buying a whole box.

    Possibly something similar with that scenario....
    Nope. She wants the dog back every month. I think she will ding him a dispensing fee and use a free sample from her med distributor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    This will blow your minds. A good friend of mine just had an enormous tick taken off his dog at the vet in North Bay. She then applied a tick preventative but my buddy didn't know what brand which puzzled me. I asked him to check the packaging but he said this vet doesn't sell it that way. The vet only dispenses one dose at a time and they apply it not the pet owner. Can you see the amount of money this vet is squeezing out of this scam? Would you pay a visit charge every month during tick season? I recommended he find another vet.
    Wow. That is unbelievable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by welsh View Post
    You can't skip the test, because the consequences of treating an infected dog are potentially fatal.
    I was just going over some comparison charts and most products state it's safe if given to heart worm positive animals.

    The LD50 (lethal dose) ratings are something I've never seen or was aware of. Sentinel didn't cause death when they gave 19 times the dose.

    LD50s are usually determined with lab animal species such as rats, mice, and rabbits, but occasionally information is available for dogs. LD50s are expressed in milligrams of ingredient per kilogram of animal body weight (i.e. mg/kg) and provides a way to compare the toxicity of different substances.
    http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=488
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    Just pick up my years supply of revolution 142. All in no vet visit required. My vets are old school they grew up with my dad and believe if your a responsible pet owner you will know when something's up with your pooch. No waiver no bs just business. Also on the tick issue I was down at long point yesterday running the dog gf was out of town for the night so the pup got her spot in bed I woke up with a tick on me last night he had not bitten yet but his day was cut short. There out full bore already neighbors say [emoji17]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whosinthebushes View Post
    Just pick up my years supply of revolution 142. All in no vet visit required. My vets are old school they grew up with my dad and believe if your a responsible pet owner you will know when something's up with your pooch. No waiver no bs just business. Also on the tick issue I was down at long point yesterday running the dog gf was out of town for the night so the pup got her spot in bed I woke up with a tick on me last night he had not bitten yet but his day was cut short. There out full bore already neighbors say [emoji17]
    Revolution is junk. It won't protect your dog from dog ticks never mind deer ticks. I guess you didn't read the replies in this thread. You'll be finding a lot more ticks in your bed my friend.
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    Well f$%k def missed that post gonna go talk to the vet. Thanks for the [emoji44][emoji375]

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    I am surprised no one has mentioned finding a generic brand of heartworm preventative medication (ivermectin) through the internet. We buy a 12 month supply for around $40.00 plus shipping (product called Nuheart). It comes from a vet supply business out of Australia. Of course you can always speculate whether this medication has the right dosage you are paying for and whether you can trust this approach.

    My son's lab has lived with a heartworm infection for over 4 years now and is on the preventative for 12 months of the year. The dog originally came from southern Louisiana, a hotbed for heartworm. You can almost guarantee an untreated dog there will eventually get heartworm. Before bringing the lab to Ontario a local vet examined him and diagnosed the heartworm infection. One of the options commonly suggested in the south is to keep the dog on 12 month heartworm medication (preventative) so that no further infection occurs. Heartworms like any organism have a lifespan and eventually die of old age. Provided the infection is not extreme and affecting the dogs health they can live with it. Another retired vet friend who practiced in Florida said they rarely put a dog through the treatment to remove the heartworm (intravenous arsenic that has some level of risk) but recommended the full time 12 month heartworm medication. This makes me wonder why an annual heartworm test is required by vets in Ontario and also why they never suggest this alternative option. Of course the treatment to remove the heartworm makes them a lot more money. Sorry if this sounds cynical.
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    Yes I did talk about using that particular product and have for many years with my sled dogs. I have never done a blood test on any of my dogs for heartworm but used the injectable ivermectin liquid product to prevent.

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    You'd need to talk to a vet about this one. Everyone says the blood test is to make sure there's no existing heartworm, because if there is, the dog can die from the preventative. It probably applies to adult worms. AFAIK there are 3 stages...
    I also recall one of the older treatment protocols is large doses of Ivermectin (the most common preventative), but this is all beyond my knowledge level of the subject.
    Also, as I mentioned many times before, I don't buy medicine from Australia and such - no idea what it is and the storage conditions.
    I am not sure how sensitive Ivermectin to storage, but why risk it, if I can buy it cheaper here..? Horse wormer.


    Quote Originally Posted by GrouseGuy View Post
    I am surprised no one has mentioned finding a generic brand of heartworm preventative medication (ivermectin) through the internet. We buy a 12 month supply for around $40.00 plus shipping (product called Nuheart). It comes from a vet supply business out of Australia. Of course you can always speculate whether this medication has the right dosage you are paying for and whether you can trust this approach.

    My son's lab has lived with a heartworm infection for over 4 years now and is on the preventative for 12 months of the year. The dog originally came from southern Louisiana, a hotbed for heartworm. You can almost guarantee an untreated dog there will eventually get heartworm. Before bringing the lab to Ontario a local vet examined him and diagnosed the heartworm infection. One of the options commonly suggested in the south is to keep the dog on 12 month heartworm medication (preventative) so that no further infection occurs. Heartworms like any organism have a lifespan and eventually die of old age. Provided the infection is not extreme and affecting the dogs health they can live with it. Another retired vet friend who practiced in Florida said they rarely put a dog through the treatment to remove the heartworm (intravenous arsenic that has some level of risk) but recommended the full time 12 month heartworm medication. This makes me wonder why an annual heartworm test is required by vets in Ontario and also why they never suggest this alternative option. Of course the treatment to remove the heartworm makes them a lot more money. Sorry if this sounds cynical.
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