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June 18th, 2014, 10:18 AM
#11

Originally Posted by
Dave S
Kent is good stuff, I have shot SS only when no FS was available and I didn’t see any diff. Kent is pretty much all I use and 2s and 3s for ducks and BBs for geese. All 3” I don’t see the value of 3.5” w/ high speed steel now. I have also had very good results w Rem hypersonic in #2 and BB - 1700 fps out of Beretta w/ a ext Mod choke. You have to find what brand/speed works w/ your gun/choke. I dont have good results w/ black cloud but that is probably just gun choke combo.
I didnt think T's were legal in ON but I used steel when it first came out in the US and the early stuff at 1200 fps was not good w lots of cripples, not until the 1500+ fps stuff came out did the kill rate go up. That is one of the reasons why we went to 3.5 back in the day was to get pellet count up w/ slow shot speeds.
T is legal if there is no big game gun season or you have a license for that big game.
Lots of guys used to use buckshot for geese back in the lead days.
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June 18th, 2014 10:18 AM
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June 18th, 2014, 11:59 AM
#12
Fox - thx for the clarification, 15 yrs ago steel T shot was not legal in ONT, it made no sense but that was the law, glad they clarified it. I never used it but I know it was used to hunt sandhill cranes.
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June 18th, 2014, 12:25 PM
#13
Grab a case of each and let us know. I doubt you'll find any difference.
I shot some #7 silver steel at doves and it worked fine.
S.
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June 19th, 2014, 05:46 AM
#14
I shoot a lot of Kent Steel Shot over the last 8 years and I don't see the difference between the FS vs the SS, except price.
Lately, I've been doing a lot of open water shooting and the Kent FS has done well for me.
I agree, a good Choke and patterning your gun is important!
Make something idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.......
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June 19th, 2014, 08:42 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
Dave S
Fox - thx for the clarification, 15 yrs ago steel T shot was not legal in ONT, it made no sense but that was the law, glad they clarified it. I never used it but I know it was used to hunt sandhill cranes.
I remember seeing something that said "no single projectile" they left the size up to you but now you have the non-toxic shot requirement.
We would have been using T steel shot 15 years ago, that was my first year hunting.
It may have been a municipal bylaw though, some ban large shot, rifles, rifles over X caliber, target shooting, it all depends.
Last edited by Fox; June 19th, 2014 at 08:44 AM.
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June 19th, 2014, 10:42 AM
#16
Thanks for all the feedback folks
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June 19th, 2014, 11:35 AM
#17
Fox - i recall the migratory bird regs saying no shot larger than BBB at one time so T would have been illegal but that was when I came back to canada in 99. I had a box of 3.5" T and wondered why I couldnt use it may have to go dig it up
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June 19th, 2014, 07:58 PM
#18
If you are hunting small game in an area where there is an open season for deer, moose, elk, or black bear, you may not possess or use a rifle of greater muzzle energy than 400 foot-pounds or shells loaded with ball or with shot larger than No. 2 shot (non-toxic equivalents include steel shot larger than triple BBB, or bismuth larger than double BB), unless you possess a valid licence to hunt deer, moose, elk or black bear as the case may be.
T is OK as long as the controlled hunt is not on in Southern Ont where I hunt.
"I may not have gone where I was supposed to go, but I ended up where I was supposed to be"
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June 19th, 2014, 08:59 PM
#19
Try challengers if you haven't already... They work great for me
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June 20th, 2014, 07:29 AM
#20

Originally Posted by
Dave S
Fox - i recall the migratory bird regs saying no shot larger than BBB at one time so T would have been illegal but that was when I came back to canada in 99. I had a box of 3.5" T and wondered why I couldnt use it may have to go dig it up
As Skeeter wrote, the regulation was not the migratory rules but rather the gun hunt for deer, moose, elk or bear. This is still in effect, if you are hunting during an open big game hunt you cannot use anything larger then BBB steel or BB bismuth unless you have a license to hunt that particular big game species at the same time.
We always had a deer license but never hunted geese during the deer hunt anyway so it was fine. I still have some T floating around, it still works just not a lot of pellets.