No more E-Collars or Prong Collars in Quebec

[terrym]

Funny I thought her supporters were fans of wearing collars etc

Joke about it all you want. The list of jurisdictions that have banned ecollars is growing not shrinking. I grew up and have friends and family in Quebec and this wasn't exactly front page news there. Now it's too late. 12 months and we're screwed here, guaranteed. This fits right in with this government's agenda as they know likely 75% of ecollar users are hunters.

[spinster]

There is a good chance that ecollars will someday be banned. Veterinarians have had a significant roll in getting tail-docking banned in certain provinces here in Canada and they don't look favorably upon the use of ecollars and prong collars: http://www.canadianveterinarians.net...thods-for-dogs
The animal welfare folks just won a major victory in how farm animals are treated in Canada, and I doubt the general public really thinks about farm animal care. Imagine what will happen when they turn their attention to companion animals. They are organized, have funding and veterinary professionals behind them. So one can never say never.

[trimmer21]

There is a good chance that ecollars will someday be banned. Veterinarians have had a significant roll in getting tail-docking banned in certain provinces here in Canada and they don't look favorably upon the use of ecollars and prong collars: http://www.canadianveterinarians.net...thods-for-dogs
The animal welfare folks just won a major victory in how farm animals are treated in Canada, and I doubt the general public really thinks about farm animal care. Imagine what will happen when they turn their attention to companion animals. They are organized, have funding and veterinary professionals behind them. So one can never say never.

Exactly,not to mention that there's a large number of hunters in our own community that have serious reservations on the use of e-collars and/or the use of dogs for hunting,in general. Publicly they don't say much,but,privately,they have plenty to say. We shouldn't delude ourselves of that fact.

[spinster]

On the subject of ecollars- http://www.seespotrunkennel.com/blog...icy-statement/

[trimmer21]

On the subject of ecollars- http://www.seespotrunkennel.com/blog...icy-statement/

Did you notice that blog has almost 400K hits?

[Sharon]

What is the CCPDT? I know what the letters stand for , but what kind of licensing is their mandate?

[welsh]

They don't really do licensing. They set certification standards for people who want to hang out their shingle as dog trainers and show that they've passed some kind of test. There are a few competing organizations offering certification.

That is a good post ... my bet would be the policy statement is incoherent because it was written by committee and had to contain contradictory information so that everyone would feel he had got his way.

[Sharon]

I liked that hierarchy but what is positive punishment?

[welsh]

Positive punishment is what we would normally think of as just plain punishment.

"Positive" in this context means we add something, "negative" that we take it away ... in "positive punishment," the thing we add is definitely negative.

Positive reinforcement -- we add something good to reinforce a behaviour = reward.
Negative reinforcement -- we remove something bad to reinforce a behaviour = nagging.
Positive punishment -- we add something bad to deter a behaviour = punishment.
Negative punishment -- we take away something good to deter a behaviour = denial.

[Sharon]

Thank you.