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August 20th, 2014, 12:42 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
topher
So.. By that statement.. Assuming all things equal next year, we could end up with 3 bull or cow tags? Since the 3 p1 guys won't meet group size.. And will each draw individual... 3 bulls would kinda suck.. Need a cow in there as well lol..
Not likely. You will have 3 pool 1, and one pool 2 hunters. Depending on your WMU, for instance that guaranteed group size was 4 or even 5, your group MAY still get a tag. If your group is still too small to get a tag from the second large group draw, all will added to the individual draw. Not much chance of all three pool 1 guys lucking out. This is where keeping track of all the previous year draw data helps.
Edit: Topher, since your WMU has a guaranteed group size of 4, if all things stay the same, your group of 3 pool 1 guys could very easily get a tag. The stats next year will say if groups of 3 were successful this year. That info should help you out.
Last edited by rick_iles; August 20th, 2014 at 12:50 PM.
Reason: More info
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August 20th, 2014 12:42 PM
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August 20th, 2014, 12:48 PM
#12
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Not likely. You will have 3 pool 1, and one pool 2 hunters. Depending on your WMU, for instance that guaranteed group size was 4 or even 5, your group MAY still get a tag. If your group is still too small to get a tag from the second large group draw, all will added to the individual draw. Not much chance of all three pool 1 guys lucking out. This is where keeping track of all the previous year draw data helps.
This is my first year.. So trying to learn it all. In our wmu there was surplus. So it may of been feasible.. But not if we got bumped down to the large group size... As we would of got our tag as a group before entering the individual draw..?
I think I understand.that now...
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August 20th, 2014, 12:55 PM
#13
It's what this post was about! We need as a group of hunters to understand, or try to understand the system.
I'm not mad about my dad's gang not getting a tag. Trying to figure it out for the next year. And, they could have gotten the guaranteed cow with 12 guys. It was a gamble. We study it every year. Last year,14+ got a bull. My bad for pushing the old guys in the group to apply bull!!
Last edited by JF Sabou; August 21st, 2014 at 07:13 AM.
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August 20th, 2014, 12:57 PM
#14

Originally Posted by
topher
This is my first year.. So trying to learn it all. In our wmu there was surplus. So it may of been feasible.. But not if we got bumped down to the large group size... As we would of got our tag as a group before entering the individual draw..?
I think I understand.that now...
Your group this year only had one pool 1 hunter. Only pool 1 hunters are considered in group sizes. Your buddy lucked out in the individual random draw. That tells me that this year, all groups of 4 got a tag, as did all groups in the next large group draw. There was still tags left, so they went to the random draw. If this is the case next year, your group of 3 should get a tag.
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August 20th, 2014, 12:59 PM
#15
Has too much time on their hands
I Even got a surplus tag.. Lol
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August 20th, 2014, 03:17 PM
#16
Everyone shouldn't apply and save there $ for a few years. This would make the govt & minister take a good hard look if there revenue was halted! Maybe then the system would get the right attention it requires.
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August 20th, 2014, 06:15 PM
#17
Has too much time on their hands
Okay.. We will do that next year.. Just remind us okay?
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August 20th, 2014, 07:08 PM
#18
WMU 21A is crazy. Last fall 2 of us in pool 1 applied as a group and got a bull tag. The other 2 guys in pool 2 applied on their own and each got a cow tag. WTF???? Never even saw a moose!
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August 21st, 2014, 04:46 AM
#19

Originally Posted by
robster
Everyone shouldn't apply and save there $ for a few years. This would make the govt & minister take a good hard look if there revenue was halted! Maybe then the system would get the right attention it requires.
Good luck with that, the government employees are going to hate you making their job easier by not having to process applications.
"I may not have gone where I was supposed to go, but I ended up where I was supposed to be"
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August 21st, 2014, 06:51 AM
#20

Originally Posted by
impact
WMU 21A is crazy. Last fall 2 of us in pool 1 applied as a group and got a bull tag. The other 2 guys in pool 2 applied on their own and each got a cow tag. WTF???? Never even saw a moose!
I think 21A is one of the units they're trying to eliminate moose in to help the caribou. Almost everyone gets a tag....and if you didn't see any moose, I'd say the MNRs management plan for that unit is working well.