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    So much for the golden future, I can't even start
    I've had every promise broken, there's anger in my heart
    you don't know what it's like, you don't have a clue
    if you did you'd find yourselves doing the same thing too

    Breaking the law, breaking the law
    Breaking the law, breaking the law

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    Not really what Im getting BB

    OOD is Canadas leading publication, it must at all times be professional, be legal.
    We all know thousands of fish are cought OOS and pics are taken...Im not aware of any charges.
    We all know people come upon their Deer, Bears, Moose, Turkey...Snap a quick pic and then tag.

    The letter of the law says pics of oos fish is illegal,
    big game must be tagged.
    Why are those no-nos here?
    Because by the letter of the law, it's illegal

    The MNR says
    That a non hunter who aids a hunt is hunting.
    That spot lighting deer at night even in the absence of guns, if its injured or killed...
    That a non hunter whose actions result in game being injured/killed (say a kid working a call) is hunting.

    Its illegal
    Just as trespassing is, or interference is or many others.

    If someone ask "is taking a pic of a fish OOS legal" whats the answer? "here'?
    Last edited by JBen; September 19th, 2014 at 02:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBen View Post
    Not really what Im getting BB

    OOD is Canadas leading publication, it must at all times be professional, be legal.
    We all know thousands of fish are cought OOS and pics are taken...Im not aware of any charges.
    We all know people come upon their Deer, Bears, Moose, Turkey...Snap a quick pic and then tag.

    The letter of the law says pics of oos fish is illegal,
    big game must be tagged.
    Why are those no-nos here?
    Because by the letter of the law, it's illegal

    The MNR says
    That a non hunter who aids a hunt is hunting.
    That spot lighting deer at night even in the absence of guns, if its injured or killed...
    That a non hunter whose actions result in game being injured/killed (say a kid working a call) is hunting.

    Its illegal
    Just as trespassing is, or interference is or many others.

    If someone ask "is taking a pic of a fish OOS legal" whats the answer? "here'?
    C'mon John, we get where you're coming from and understand your opinion. There is THE LAW and then there is the ethics of everyone who abides by and those who enforce THE LAW, we will all have our own opinion about what's right and what's wrong in parallel of what THE LAW says.

    No need for anyone to get bent out of shape!!

    Frosty.

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    Take the pic and let the fishy go . LOL . It wasn't my hands holding it . It was the gloves .

    TD

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    If the glove don't fit you must acquit

    thought of a good way to say it. OOD both the mag and these forums is/are a leading authority where people come for advice. Some things are very grey, this isn't really. What we do in our private lives is up to us ( say like doing 120 in a 100 zone). If something is "illegal" and asked about here...."Do I have to encase my bow 35 minutes after sunset"....Can a non hunter join me. We really should just be answering what the MNR says...If people want to do differently.

    To each his own

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    Frosty. Why are pics of OOS fish a no-no here, untagged animals? Im not "bent" simply pointing out that we really shouldn't be telling people its ok for our children to aid in hunts, when clearly the law says....it can result in charges......not here.
    Last edited by JBen; September 19th, 2014 at 02:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBen View Post

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    Frosty. Why are pics of OOS fish a no-no here, untagged animals? Im not "bent" simply pointing out that we really shouldn't be telling people its ok for our children to aid in hunts, when clearly the law says....it can result in charges......not here.
    Exactly. As pointed out earlier, this isn't a chewing the fat session around a table with a bunch of guys who are familiar with one another ( although some of us do socialize off here). This is a very visible forum, that is populated by a large range of outdoor experience. Let's also not forget that everything we say on here is visible to the entire world should they so choose to go looking......not just fellow outdoorsmen.
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    LOL You guys take yourselves far too seriously, I'm still letting the little kid blow the call, personally I never met a CO that would charge me for that, recruitment of new hunters is in the interest of everyone including the CO.

    Whether this is OOD property or not I more or less view it as the public forum of the OFAH and as such I am perfectly allowed to tell you my opinion just as you are entitled to tell me yours

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    Go ahead Frosty I invite you to post pics of OOS Fish and untagged big game

    and by all means on this topic...Do what you see fit, honestly . Theres "no judgement"

    It is illegal though and your opinion (right or wrong I make no call/judgement ) is that its ok to tell advise people its ok to do illegal things here on the OOD forums and thats where your "wrong". Whether COs should, will or won't isn't the point.

    I personally do not know or have heard of a single person thats been charged for spotlighting at night (see MNRs response) or taking pics of OOS fish (see MNRs response and see the OOD Forum rules).

    Whether a CO decides to lay or charge not is immaterial, by the letter of the law its "illegal". Would you advise someone to interfere with a hunt? No? why not?
    Thats a pretty rare charge to.

    We shouldn't advise or tell people its ok, here on these forums when the letter clearly says its illegal, just as taking pics of oos fish….
    Last edited by JBen; September 19th, 2014 at 05:58 PM.

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    one thing i think we can all agrea on is im glad jben is not a CO, and i dont wanna be stuck behind him on the 401 driving 100 km/hr

    lol just kidding
    fishy steve
    id rather be lost in the woods, than found in the city!


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    lol, actually your wrong..If it was my call I wouldnt

    Look the MNR has made it pretty clear "aiding" in the hunt is illegal. They have given the example (along with many others) of a non hunter walking along with hunters..too far away and that can (not should or will CAN) be seen as pushing deer, aiding in the hunt and it can result in charges.

    A child "pushing" deer
    A child calling ducks

    no material difference, both are aiding the hunt, both illegal. These are the OOD forums where doing illegal things (like pics of OOS fish is illegal and CAN result in charges)…….

    Nuff said
    Last edited by JBen; September 19th, 2014 at 06:17 PM.

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