Shot Wasp out of my Excalibur for years because they are low profile and shoot like target points. Actually, I found the Wasps originally with my first crossbow, a really basic Barnett Wildcat years ago. It was really accurate with them compared to other broadheads.
The four blades make a lot of lacerations on the way through, and they do go through. Diameter is over rated I think. As many before have said, it is shot placement that counts. Find something that hits where you point it. If you put the arrow through the ribs and you don't hit too high, you have yourself a deer.
Good video on how to sharpen a broadhead.....I have a tool similar to the second method he shows...works like a charm.
I actually tried a Montec that I had kicking around with both methods and for me neither method gets it sharp enough. Stone method makes the edge angle too steep and the carbide sharpener just gets it close. Tried too finish it on leather and with a steel and just hard to get right near the point basically nullifying the cut on contact section of tip which I'd say is probably the best feature of the Montec.
just out of curiosity front the many people shooting these slick tricks have ever tried a 2 blade non mechanical head? And what keeps you from trying one out? And also what is the reason you use the slick trick over other broadheads other than how it flys or groups. I'm talking from a lethal intentions standpoint?
just out of curiosity front the many people shooting these slick tricks have ever tried a 2 blade non mechanical head? And what keeps you from trying one out? And also what is the reason you use the slick trick over other broadheads other than how it flys or groups. I'm talking from a lethal intentions standpoint?
1. Simple blade replacement after use. I don't re-sharpen.
2. Really good blood trails - pass through every time. (I'm sure they're not unique in this respect)
3. Everything I've shot with them so far has piled up within 60 yards.
4. Confidence gained after experiencing #2 and #3. Probably the most important point.
Since I found a broadhead that gave me confidence in its effectiveness, I haven't felt the need to tinker around or switch. I don't particularly worry about all of the technical jargon. Put it through both lungs and it's dead. Can't make them any deader.
I suppose if I was shooting and someone offered me a practice 2-blade head to try out, I would. I just wouldn't have the same confidence with it when it counts.
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Originally Posted by GW11
1. Simple blade replacement after use. I don't re-sharpen.
2. Really good blood trails - pass through every time. (I'm sure they're not unique in this respect)
3. Everything I've shot with them so far has piled up within 60 yards.
4. Confidence gained after experiencing #2 and #3. Probably the most important point.
Since I found a broadhead that gave me confidence in its effectiveness, I haven't felt the need to tinker around or switch. I don't particularly worry about all of the technical jargon. Put it through both lungs and it's dead. Can't make them any deader.
I suppose if I was shooting and someone offered me a practice 2-blade head to try out, I would. I just wouldn't have the same confidence with it when it counts.
Oh yeah, Slick Tricks fly well/group well too
Pretty much sums it up for me too. I will add they fly exactly like my field points. They were recommended to me by a pro and they work well, so why tinker around I have better things to spend my time on than to change something that works well, the deer won't get any deader
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G5 monte is a terrible head for a couple of reasons. They don't come sharp enough and they are hard to sharpen.
You sound like your fixated on the sharpening issue with the Montecs.....you may have read or experienced this issue years ago when the first hit the market....they fixed that problem a few years back with the release of the Montec CS (for Carbon Steel)...that hasn't been and issue since then....and as my posted video shows...you can't find an easier way to sharpen a broadhead.
3 blades are no as efficient as 2
Penetration is considerably worse.
Originally Posted by Frozenfew
Having 4 blades versus 3 gives you a huge penetration advantage.
Which one is it lol.
I shot rage 2 blades with devastating results, until I hit a shoulder. Yes, that's my fault, but I know with a good fixed blade head that shoulder would have made much less of an impact. This year I'm making the switch to the tricks. So far, I have not been able to find a single negative comment on them from a person that actually used them. If anyone has anything bad to say about them, I'd love to hear it!
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[QUOTE=sullyy;824709]Which one is it lol.
I shot rage 2 blades with devastating results, until I hit a shoulder. Yes, that's my fault, but I know with a good fixed blade head that shoulder would have made much less of an impact. This year I'm making the switch to the tricks. So far, I have not been able to find a single negative comment on them from a person that actually used them. If anyone has anything bad to say about them, I'd love to hear it![/QUOTE
Yep, if I shoot a deer on the ground they pass through and then bury themselves in a tree, never to be seen again, so don't get too attached to them
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Hey fishn dad, agree on the 3 blade rage. I've seen where the blades can bind and not open especially if the arrow is shot at an agle to the deer, as one blade deploys before the other 2 jamming the action of the second 2. Its not an issue in broad side shots. The 2 blade rage don't have this issue and the new hypodermics models don't have the goofy rubber o ring it's plastic and snaps into place.
still though at shorter range a fixed blade is tuff to beat, don't get too hung up on the make n model as long as it flys good and u put it where it's supposed to you will have a dead deer.
What's your method for sharpening? I use the same sharpening device shown in that video. Doesn't get much easier than that. How much tighter are your groups with Montecs in your crossbow versus any 2 blade or 4 blade head. I've not tried a 2 or 4 blade on the crossbow so I can't say. I have tried a 2 blade on the compound and I had issues with consistency, I would like to try it again though. The Montecs vs. the other brands I used...slight difference. I would use any for hunting without a doubt BUT I feel most comfortable and confident in the Montecs. How many arrows are you shooting at a time under the same conditions? I always shoot in groups of 3. When I test my broadheads I use the same arrows and just switch the heads on them. Always shot during the same day. I TRY and keep all variables equal...the best I can. What weight of heads do you normally shoot? 150gr Crossbow, 100gr Compound Do you paper tune without feathers? No
I think as long as you have consistency with your broadheads, you should be fine no matter what manufacturer you are using. Unless you do penetration tests you will never know how well a broadhead will perform.
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