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October 16th, 2014, 07:29 AM
#31
Guys who want to bash each other... take it to off-topic. Keep it over there with the political bashing. It does *almost* no good here... someone could figure out the true worth of someone's advice, but that person would have to be around for years and follow every single user name to really know. Personally, I can't be bothered to track all the user names and individual comments they have made over the months and years.
As for the question on crown land maps... Unless I'm missing something, I haven't found "crown land maps" and "topo maps" in the same tool. The "Crown Land Use Policy Atlas" is essentially complete... although I've personally come upon gated access to mine claims, marked private property that doesn't appear greyed out, and road closure signs in areas with policies listing access.
http://www.ontario.ca/environment-an...e-policy-atlas
NRCAN puts out the Atlas of Canada, with online access to the Toporama topographical maps... which can be downloaded in various formats for personal use.
http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/topo
Some guys here use this tool... Gmap4 mapping tool... combines multiple map sources, lets you bounce between satellite, street map, multiple topo maps...
http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php
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October 16th, 2014 07:29 AM
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October 16th, 2014, 01:40 PM
#32

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Do you think you might ever contribute something to the site instead of trolling?
Just because someone has a different opinion or disagrees with you doesn't make them a troll. I'll let others decide what is or isn't trolling and who's doing it.
You are louder then most, but that doesn't mean you are "winning", it doesn't even mean you are right. You play one note and that makes it easy to be tuned out.
Make sure you have finished speaking before your audience has finished listening.
Dorothy Sarnoff
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October 16th, 2014, 02:11 PM
#33
Again do you think you wil actually contribute to the site besides trolling the Off Topic area. Actually I am right not just louder. You accused me of throwing this thread off topic. If you had actually read the thread it was FisherMcann who did, I was making a contribution. But I'm guessing you just are here to troll.

Originally Posted by
kickingfrog
Just because someone has a different opinion or disagrees with you doesn't make them a troll. I'll let others decide what is or isn't trolling and who's doing it.
You are louder then most, but that doesn't mean you are "winning", it doesn't even mean you are right. You play one note and that makes it easy to be tuned out.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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October 16th, 2014, 07:43 PM
#34
Same note. Thank you for the contribution. Again, I'll leave it to others, who's opinion people respect, to judge trolls.
As to actually reading this thread, if you were capable of that you would note that I offered something before you, once again took it sideways.
Make sure you have finished speaking before your audience has finished listening.
Dorothy Sarnoff
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October 17th, 2014, 09:13 AM
#35

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Some on here think that you must be a hunter 24-7 365. Crown Land owned by all...From what I have read on this site , if you are not there before the crack of dawn, 2 weeks in advance, you should not hunt there! Most hunters I know, do not have a couple of weeks during the year, before the season to scout out where they want to go. Work all year , get 2 weeks to hunt, look at a map, go there. They have the same rights
to hunt that area as locals or regulars, who scout the area 12 months of the year. Not your land , not your deer! I have been confronted before on public land and backed off. That will never happen again , as I had-have as much right on-in that area as he- they do. A hunter had set up a stand on crown land for about 5 years and was upset that others walked through "his" spot... Ps. it is only 250 acres of Crown Land in that spot. It is 300 yards from my dock, Not small-big, enough to call your own. His for life ..why?

We have talked and he said he- it was OK for me to hunt there AFTER he had got his bear and deer. This was-is the last year that I will let him control the only crown land within 20 miles. My stand will go up in April, and I will be there first. Can't wait to see if he checks with me before he hunts. Shoe on other foot anyone? Want hunting land for life...buy it!
Hunting ethics are subjective and very personal to each hunter. Imagine these two situations:
(1) Fishermccann heads into that section of Crown land after the other hunter has set up and begun hunting for the year.
(2) Fishermccann heads into that section of Crown land LONG BEFORE the season, cuts some shooting lanes, sets up a treestand, and is there long before daylight on opening morning.
Is Fishermccann being ethical in both situations? More ethical in one than the other?
My personal thoughts: Situation 1 demonstrates unethical hunting behaviour. Situation 2 does not, at least not to the same degree. Just because someone has hunted an area for the last several years does not grant them exclusive access to that Crown land in perpetuity. There has to be some element of "first come, first served", given the limited availability of Crown land.
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October 17th, 2014, 10:32 AM
#36
I guess maybe in Southern Ontario crown is limited. But as soon as you leave there is lot's even around Ottawa there is lot's and much more in less then a 2 hour drive. Head towards Pembrook, Arnpiror etc land is almost limitedless. So there really isn't a reason to overlap.

Originally Posted by
Dude Bro
Hunting ethics are subjective and very personal to each hunter. Imagine these two situations:
(1) Fishermccann heads into that section of Crown land after the other hunter has set up and begun hunting for the year.
(2) Fishermccann heads into that section of Crown land LONG BEFORE the season, cuts some shooting lanes, sets up a treestand, and is there long before daylight on opening morning.
Is Fishermccann being ethical in both situations? More ethical in one than the other?
My personal thoughts: Situation 1 demonstrates unethical hunting behaviour. Situation 2 does not, at least not to the same degree. Just because someone has hunted an area for the last several years does not grant them exclusive access to that Crown land in perpetuity. There has to be some element of "first come, first served", given the limited availability of Crown land.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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October 17th, 2014, 11:46 AM
#37
Yeah, I'm originally from northern Ontario where we never have this problem, unless it's a 5 year old forest cut that gets flooded with moose hunters. It can be really frustrating to find unused Crown land here in parts of southern Ontario.
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October 18th, 2014, 10:55 AM
#38
Wondering if I can get some help/clarification on online map, thearea's I’m looking at is off highway 36 near Bobcaygeon it’s coming up as P26Provincial Park Natural Environment and G343 General Use area. My question ison the Backroads Mapbook Bancroft Crownland map these area’s show as crown landso if I was to scout/hunt in both area which one would be the one to choose???.The online map is ok but I find it can be confusing.
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October 18th, 2014, 11:20 AM
#39

Originally Posted by
kickingfrog
My combo is: Crown land, Google satellite and then the Canadian topo site. Between the three I can get some sense for what the cover is like. Then it's time for a drive and maybe a walk.
this is the best way to find new place to hunt.....
it takes some getting used to but there are areas out there but things get busy when season is on so i would say have a back up plane or area ....
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October 18th, 2014, 04:12 PM
#40
I have been using Garmin basecamp, ibycus topo and looking land layout with google earth