Health Clearances

[Jakezilla]

Compassion is not good for any breed, the best breeders I know understand that and produce superior animals.

[trkyhntr21]

It is unpleasant and not very PC to mention the term "culling" however it is easy to find evidence of it if you know where to look no matter the breed. People mentioned Robert Wehle, Ferrell Miller etc for the English pointer I have found this little blurb as it concerns the Vizsla
Dr. Pallós, Andrea-The generic health and typical diseases of Hungarian Vizsla breeds
"It is evident from the above description that the breed still retains the advantages attained through centuries of selection, and specimens are sufficiently healthy. However, it is also apparent that certain disorders (e.g. hip joint dysplasia) and unwanted traits (e.g. behavioural problems due to an unstable nervous system) occur at an undesirable frequency. Thus the task of breeders shall be to retain the traits that confer advantages as compared to other breeds. However, we must be unbiased in assessing our dogs and must not shy from culling our breeding stocks, so that the popularity and esteem of the breed may increase throughout the world."
http://www.hungarianvizsla.hu/cikk_generic-health.html

[trkyhntr21]

PudelPointers as far as health clearances are concerned is testing for HD but over all there doesn't seem to be many issues.

[vom Dufenshmirtz]

Seems to me that the retriever folk have done the best job on researching what is essential. I've never seen anything much for setters, hounds or spaniels. I'd like to learn about this more.

Sharon, One comment I'd like to make, the list of recommended health checks is a tricky marker... Sometimes wrong conclusions can be drawn from it...
For example I was shocked when I looked into toy poodles for a friend - the list is long, the possible issues are many...
We did talk about this in the past here too..

WRT epilepsy, my breed club tracks it and calculates probability and gene carriers within the breed. No test yet (DNA). If a pup gets it (or HD), the club will refund the purchase price (I am talking about the German club here). It's fairly rare tough.

[krakadawn]

Troll?
So anyone who points out the ignorance and inflammatory nature of a completely unsubstiantied and WRONG assertation is a troll?
If challenging and holding accountable inaccurate, ill advised, and inflammatory statement is wrong, then I am a troll.
If expecting that people on a hunting forum would measure the words they use bearing in mind it is a PUBLIC forum and can be viewed, and in turn be used to place legitimate hunters and breeders in a bad light then I am a troll.
As for the science of it all, I have attached a link for those that care to read, but ostriches need not read as the light may burn their eyes. http://ic.upei.ca/cidd/disorder/hip-dysplasia
http://dogtime.com/dog-breeds/pointer
Mods, if I have offended anyone I apologize, I guess I should be culled

Thanks for posting the link with UPEI University. Their approach seems to be with a wide stroke of the brush when they list potential health issues for specific breeds. Quite a list for most breeds.

As I read through the Labrador section, I couldn't help but notice there is no reference to CNM and EIC. Both have come to the forefront with retrievers in recent years and would appear to be of more importance than the standard hips/elbows etc for many breeders. Certainly very important.

I guess no matter how current a report is.......once published it is now dated.

[cdnvizsla]

Compassion may slow down the progression, but BLINDNESS will walk you off a cliff

[Jakezilla]

If you are really interested in discussing this do a little research on FDSB English Pointers, not the links to the show pointers you posted earlier. The pointer breeders I know and deal with have 20/20 vision.

English pointers dominate the highest level of field trials and don't require a laundry list of health clearances what other proof do you need that somewhere in the past the breeders got it right and the current breeders are maintaining the standard?

[Tim Tufts]

If you are really interested in discussing this do a little research on FDSB English Pointers, not the links to the show pointers you posted earlier. The pointer breeders I know and deal with have 20/20 vision.

English pointers dominate the highest level of field trials and don't require a laundry list of health clearances what other proof do you need that somewhere in the past the breeders got it right and the current breeders are maintaining the standard?

Yup, back in the 20's they crossed in a few Setters and Walker Hounds

[Jakezilla]

Yup, back in the 20's they crossed in a few Setters and Walker Hounds

I cannot confirm or deny this.

I think something similar may have happened to get the setters we have today.

[cdnvizsla]

If you cant see the light, I cant help you.
Just because you don't look under the bed doesn't mean there is no monster there, you just didn't look.
As far as Canine figure skating goes, keep on topic dominating a sport has SFA to do with being healthy, and a whole lot more to do with egos, and deals. Never heard of a competitor being shot in any other venue of dog sport.