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November 18th, 2014, 03:53 PM
#11
Yes, deer hunters should complete the survey, and the MNR should have the postage prepaid. We are approaching $50 for a tag now.
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November 18th, 2014 03:53 PM
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November 18th, 2014, 04:00 PM
#12
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
SongDog
You should HAVE to fill this out, You should only be able to buy a tag the following year if you completed the survey.
This has to be one of the MNR's best tool for judging animal populations.
And beside OOD members who tell the truth?!?
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November 18th, 2014, 04:26 PM
#13

Originally Posted by
Mount Sweetness
Yes, deer hunters should complete the survey, and the MNR should have the postage prepaid. We are approaching $50 for a tag now.
I'd rather them not pay postage. Thats dollars that can be better spent.
They give us the option of doing it online, which the vast majority of the population has access to.
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November 18th, 2014, 04:34 PM
#14

Originally Posted by
Mount Sweetness
Yes, deer hunters should complete the survey, and the MNR should have the postage prepaid. We are approaching $50 for a tag now.

Originally Posted by
blasted_saber
They give us the option of doing it online, which the vast majority of the population has access to.
You could have done it on-line FREE in about the same time it took to type that post MS
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November 19th, 2014, 06:47 AM
#15
I'm just happy it's all online now. It was always hard to remember to fill out the bear one 3-4 months after the season ended and mail it in. I'm surprised it's actually so high at 6% considering it was voluntary reporting.
I'm curious how much some WMUs will have their tag numbers skewed by people wanting more tags the next year.
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November 19th, 2014, 07:35 AM
#16

Originally Posted by
x_xeon_x
I'm just happy it's all online now. It was always hard to remember to fill out the bear one 3-4 months after the season ended and mail it in. I'm surprised it's actually so high at 6% considering it was voluntary reporting.
I'm curious how much some WMUs will have their tag numbers skewed by people wanting more tags the next year.
Recall that this isnt the only way quotas are set. MTO collision data is also used. Im sure some biologists just go off of "feel" and experience as well.
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November 19th, 2014, 07:47 AM
#17
They don't pay any attention to you anyway so what are we paying for .? Giving a job out to someone opening envelopes ? Last thing we need is more pencil pushers and analysts squandering the zero budget . Yes I fill them out when I get them but am too disgruntled to even give the MNR much weight in how they come up with their conclusions . The Ministry is run by a bunch of pencil pushing , pinko idiots . I can still hear them last year ." DON'T Supplemental FEED the DEER " while the poor buggers were above their ears in snow . Then at the end when the MNR stepped out in the sunlight they said " Oh My " . " It was a hard winter and we should feed " . IDIOTS . They protect the wolves and coyotes but let the deer starve .
Some of us got our deer here because we helped them out last winter but like most hunters here , and there , we don't have the budget to sustain the whole herd in the province . I'm up already over my knees in the white stuff and it is only November and I started feeding , and damned to the Ministry of NO Returns . Anybody worth their salt spending time in the bush knows when the deer or anything in the bush is in trouble . Do you honestly think a bunch of wet behind the ears biologists sitting behind a desk know anything ? They read graphs , not sign in the bush .
TD
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November 19th, 2014, 08:05 AM
#18
C'mon bigbear, tell us what you really think. For the record, I like your assessment. I just completed my questionnaire online and I hope it is helpful to the ministry. Information provided by those of us afield at least gives them something to work with. We can't force them to analyze it correctly, but we can hope they do.
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November 19th, 2014, 08:15 AM
#19
I agree with what you say bigbear. If the MNR even follow up on a lot of these questioners would surprise me.
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November 19th, 2014, 08:22 AM
#20

Originally Posted by
blasted_saber
Recall that this isnt the only way quotas are set. MTO collision data is also used. Im sure some biologists just go off of "feel" and experience as well.
That's a BS rumour about the MTO collision data. I checked into this in 2009 with the OPP (its actually them, not MTO) - and this data is not readily available.