Always with the personal shot hey Werner….Originally Posted by werner.reiche
Shooting paper in the back yard is not the same as hunting deer….
Just read thru the Bowhunting forum and see how many guys miss or wounded deer at 20 yds year after year….it’s because they don’t understand the difference.
But Hey, lets advice new guys to the sport go out and try it anyways. Great mentoring.
"Shooting paper in the back yard is not the same as hunting deer…."
Exactly - so how is the OP supposed to get his experience hunting deer if he isn't hunting deer?????????
No shortage of stories on missed/wounded deer w/ bows- but its not just the newcomers - and I would bet that most are due to range estimation errors and excitement.
...and whey you start taking shots at other people's advice that you disagree with - expect some blowback. Pretty childish of you to take a shot at 3 people's opinions and then whine because you get some blowback from that coming your way. You really have to get used to the idea that you are not the only one on the forum with an opinion.
Last edited by werner.reiche; November 21st, 2014 at 01:09 PM.
Do you even have the ability to have a debate an issue without resorting to personal attacks and name calling...it's gotten real old Werner...
It seems the OP understood the point I was making.
Last edited by MikePal; November 21st, 2014 at 01:17 PM.
OP probably did not want to spend the money to buy the crossbow. You can practice 10 years on a bag there is nothing like actually hunting. Practice is not the same as actually hunting period. So have to agree with Werner on this one. If you take a excalibur out and keep your shots under 20 yards and shoot and use the right broadheads you will have a dead deer or bear. Practice and real hunting are not the same.
Practicing simulated hunting scenarios at home is what MP is really referring to here and there's lots of them.
20 yards in an open field and 20 yards in the woods are 2 completely different looking images.
If you can't distinguish the difference, you're missing or wounding animals. Only experience puts that knowledge into your memory.
You aren't achieving that by sighting in your bow with a handfull of arrows.
I learned at a young age that "what can go wrong in bowhunting , will go wrong in bowhunting.
...and someone pointed this out way earlier in the thread "but you must be very good at getting your range to deer accurate. I have 20 yard and 30 yard markers at my stand. Take a few target shots from your stand at where you expect the deer to be."
Me bad, didn't notice, sorry bout that.
Practicing on stand is good for the memory. Do you take a shot when you get there or when you're ready to leave?
I normally set up my stand when I'm not hunting...find or set up range markers - rocks/trees. Throw out the black box target and take a few shots to make sure things work as I expect.
If I'm hunting the evening and I get there early enough, I'll take a couple of practice shots. If I hunt the morning, I'll take a couple of practice shots when I'm leaving. These are field points that I shoot into the ground - usually at apples - since I'm usually hunting over apples - I drop this routine when the ground freezes.
I am not much of a bow hunter, but I'm pretty good with my phoenix. Never shot at a deer yet - passed a couple because of darkness and one because of range - unsure of making a 40 or so yard shot - I wasn't prepared for it having made the assumption that any deer that close would come right in to the 30 yard marker. I have taken a couple of grouse with the phoenix though.
I just reread your reference.
Yeah, not really the same message werner. "but you must be very good at getting your range to deer accurate"
How are you achieving this without hours of practice?
I must have been writing when you were.
You answered my question.
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