deisel vs gas

[terrym]

Unless I'm planning on putting 300 000+ km on my odometer, it doesn't economic sense to go this route..
I have yet to drive a vehicle with that many KMs on it...

I put that many kms on every vehicle I own easily. I think the advantage of a diesel is to go substantially beyond 300k but as said above its the rest of the vehicle that will fall apart not the engine.

[terrym]

When I bought my golf tdi almost ten years ago the diesel option was an extra 1800 bucks and diesel was only 85 cents a liter and cost me 45 bucks to fill the tank that would get me 1000kms . Today it costs me 60 bucks to fill and it still goes 1000km ,the car has 290,000 kms on her and still going strong. I will get another when this one dies as I drive just over 100kms a day to work and home so for me it is worth it.

I think the VW tdi are proven to be excellent investments but there really aren't too many direct competitors in that segment, at least not many that are commercially successful. Most are in the luxury class cars like Audi or MB.

[JJL]

I think you need to define if you are talking about diesel trucks or diesel cars.
there is a big difference in cost/returns I think.

[terrym]

I think you need to define if you are talking about diesel trucks or diesel cars.
there is a big difference in cost/returns I think.

Cars mostly. Trucks also have a definite performance advantage which cars really don't other than the mileage advantage.

[topher]

The other thing to keep in mind is that in most cases, a diesel truck puts you into a whole different realm in regards to the laws of the road. Safeties, CVOR, pre-trips etc, unless you're looking at some of these ultra light duty trucks that come with diesels.

Whet did you get your info from? Depends on the weight of three truck.. a 1 tone side not need a yellow sticker cvor etc... also depends on what the vehicle is used for.. commercial will require cvor and pre trip if you tow nearly anything. Personal use your okay... as long as your towing a"mobile home" (camper, fifth wheel) put a utility trailer on the back... and you now need to be more concerned about weight....

[PGidley]

Cars mostly. Trucks also have a definite performance advantage which cars really don't other than the mileage advantage.

Part of the reason I went with the TDI Golf was the performance factor. I was looking for something that got 40 mpg+, and there were a few contenders in the gasser category, like the Fit, Yaris etc but the driving experience of the Golf is lightyears ahead. To get great mileage but also have a torquey, fun to drive car was what got me.

I definitely rack up the miles. My truck (2000 F150) is over 450,000 kms now, and the car is already over 5000.

[terrym]

Never met a TDI owner who didn't love the thing.

[last5oh_302]

Whet did you get your info from? Depends on the weight of three truck.. a 1 tone side not need a yellow sticker cvor etc... also depends on what the vehicle is used for.. commercial will require cvor and pre trip if you tow nearly anything. Personal use your okay... as long as your towing a"mobile home" (camper, fifth wheel) put a utility trailer on the back... and you now need to be more concerned about weight....

Any one ton dually brand new from the factory needs a yellow safety sticker (has to be done every year) before it leaves the lot. All I was saying is that getting a diesel truck has it's pros and cons, and since a lot people buy one ton duallies when they go diesel, it needed mentioning than there are some technicalities/added expenses that could possibly go along with moving up to a heavy duty diesel truck.

Since this thread is mostly about diesel cars then it doesn't matter anyway.

[Snowwalker]

Any one ton dually brand new from the factory needs a yellow safety sticker (has to be done every year) before it leaves the lot. All I was saying is that getting a diesel truck has it's pros and cons, and since a lot people buy one ton duallies when they go diesel, it needed mentioning than there are some technicalities/added expenses that could possibly go along with moving up to a heavy duty diesel truck.

Since this thread is mostly about diesel cars then it doesn't matter anyway.

Heavy duty diesel trucks have eight drive tires and 9 to 18 gears...
even a one ton is still a "light duty" truck.
You have to be towing over 5 ton to need to worry about yellow stickers..

[last5oh_302]

Heavy duty diesel trucks have eight drive tires and 9 to 18 gears...
even a one ton is still a "light duty" truck.
You have to be towing over 5 ton to need to worry about yellow stickers..

Any pickup with a manufacturers gross vehicle weight rating of more than 4500 kg's needs an annual yellow safety sticker. Any 1 ton dually made these days and for the past 10 years has a MGVWR of more than 4500 kg. They need the sticker.