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December 10th, 2014, 09:35 AM
#11
Absolutely! You should ask the neighbour prior to the hunt. It's just as important to get their permission, as it is for permission for the land you will be hunting. And while asking them, be sure to explain that retreiving or searching for a wounded animal would be considered "hunting" in the eyes of the law.
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December 10th, 2014 09:35 AM
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December 10th, 2014, 01:16 PM
#12

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
Absolutely! You should ask the neighbour prior to the hunt. It's just as important to get their permission, as it is for permission for the land you will be hunting. And while asking them, be sure to explain that retreiving or searching for a wounded animal would be considered "hunting" in the eyes of the law.
Exactly. And I have been boned on this in the past by an unscrupulous hunter. This guy trespasses on everyone under the premise of searching for wounded game. If you get prior permission to retrieve game please don't mess it up by actually hunting the property.
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December 11th, 2014, 08:07 AM
#13
Do you legally need permission to retrieve an animal that you have taken? I thought as ethical hunters we are required to make every effort possible to retrieve our game and therefore there are laws in place under the game and fish act that allow us access without permission in order to retrieve our game. It is always more politically correct to arrange things ahead of time but if you have a neighbor that you know could be a problem you still have the right to go on their land for this purpose.
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December 11th, 2014, 08:24 AM
#14

Originally Posted by
paultracy
Do you legally need permission to retrieve an animal that you have taken? I thought as ethical hunters we are required to make every effort possible to retrieve our game and therefore there are laws in place under the game and fish act that allow us access without permission in order to retrieve our game. It is always more politically correct to arrange things ahead of time but if you have a neighbor that you know could be a problem you still have the right to go on their land for this purpose.
That would make sense - but its not the way the law works.
By law, permission is required to trespass to retrieve game (retrieving game is "hunting" from the perspective of trespass laws).
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December 11th, 2014, 08:40 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
That would make sense - but its not the way the law works.
By law, permission is required to trespass to retrieve game (retrieving game is "hunting" from the perspective of trespass laws).
It would make sense if you don't own any property or believe in property rights. What makes sense is the move the OFA is making to have the trespass penalties increased significantly.
Apparently there are still folks out there with no clue as to the law regarding trespass, which is a threat to all of us who know and obey the laws.
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December 11th, 2014, 08:47 AM
#16

Originally Posted by
paultracy
Do you legally need permission to retrieve an animal that you have taken? I thought as ethical hunters we are required to make every effort possible to retrieve our game and therefore there are laws in place under the game and fish act that allow us access without permission in order to retrieve our game. It is always more politically correct to arrange things ahead of time but if you have a neighbor that you know could be a problem you still have the right to go on their land for this purpose.
YES,and so called hunters wonder why land owners refuse them entry. Did you know your strange scent disturbs the private property. Trrying to reteive an animal with out permission is "Trespassing to hunt". Your obligations are finished when you get a NO. What makes you think by buying a licence, gives you the right to trespass.
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December 11th, 2014, 08:49 AM
#17

Originally Posted by
JoePa
I wouldn't ask - because if you need to go on someone else's property and they had earlier told you no you don't have an excuse to retrieve a deer that ran over on their property - if I shot a deer and it ran on a adjacent property I would just go and get it - 9 times out of 10 the owner of this property won't even know what you did - if he happens to catch you then just tell him that you hit a deer and don't want it to suffer so you thought it would be ok to retrieve it - what's he going to do - he would have to be pretty mean not to let you get the deer -
Your a POACHER.
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December 11th, 2014, 09:03 AM
#18
If you ask to retrieve game and the landowner refuses, you are no longer obligated to make use of that animal but the landowner IS. I would assume that they often change their mind when they are informed of that.
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December 11th, 2014, 09:03 AM
#19

Originally Posted by
Greenhorn
YES,and so called hunters wonder why land owners refuse them entry. Did you know your strange scent disturbs the private property. Trrying to reteive an animal with out permission is "Trespassing to hunt". Your obligations are finished when you get a NO. What makes you think by buying a licence, gives you the right to trespass.
Your obligations do not end when you get a no. At that point it's time to get the CO involved. I don't remember if it was a recent or older issue of OOD but I recently read of a case where the landowner was told by the CO that he would be charged with allowing the deer to spoil if he did not consume it. Since he had no intention of using the deer permission was immediately granted.
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December 11th, 2014, 09:15 AM
#20

Originally Posted by
M_P
Your obligations do not end when you get a no. At that point it's time to get the CO involved. I don't remember if it was a recent or older issue of OOD but I recently read of a case where the landowner was told by the CO that he would be charged with allowing the deer to spoil if he did not consume it. Since he had no intention of using the deer permission was immediately granted.
Yes, I meant to add the CO part to my response as well. If the landowner is refusing because they are some citiot hobby farmer, you will probably be in luck cause they will have no idea how to process a deer. Otherwise, most farmers would likely understand if you were hunting a neighbouring property and needed 'one time' access.