Permission for Deer Retrieval

[mark270wsm]

The landowner is not obligated to find and/or use the animal.
If the landowner does use the animal, they must report the acquisition

right from the mnr... you had a bad lawyer

[Deerslayer99]

JoePa.....had we kept our mouths shut and went the lawyer route it would have went on for years probably and cost us a lot more in lawyer bills than what the set fines were so we didn't want to do this....at least mine was dropped which cut the cost in fines in half......honestly we never in our wildest dreams thought so much would have come out of simply walking into a bush to retrieve our animal.....never again.....

[Deerslayer99]

The landowner is not obligated to find and/or use the animal.
If the landowner does use the animal, they must report the acquisition

right from the mnr... you had a bad lawyer

It was the MNR who told us this.....the CO that is

[mark270wsm]

pm to deerslayer99

[JoePa]

JoePa......a vehicle went past us with the deer on our ATV after dark.....I believe it all stemmed from this and that is why I would really liked to have known what the actual complaint was and what lies were told to get so much heat in to investigate

Thanks for the response - I'm somewhat confused - you never even found out what they were charging you for - heck maybe they thought you were poaching at night or whatever - unless you told them how did they even know who was hunting with you - as I said earlier - I would have not said anything - without any information how can they charge you with anything - boy - strange things can happen up there -

[Deerslayer99]

JoePa.....they asked us straight up if we were hunting in this specific spot which I may add is only a few hundred yards away from the cottage/camp.....I said no not hunting but yes we retrieved our deer from there....then it just went from there.....im an honest person and I wasn't going to lie about anything.....they took our statements and at the end of the day and this took all day I might add they said we would be charged....summons for court will be sent in the mail and we were back up there in 2 weeks for court.....the initial charge was trespassing.....

[mark270wsm]

yup they followed the blood trail to the shooting site... there is tons of other charges followed by trespassing .. just like not tagging a animal correctly ... if you get caught doing that then the charges really add up .. fast and expensive... and if you give a false statement and sign it and they find out different .. its huge fine for liying to a officer ..... been there done that

[trimmer21]

JoePa......a vehicle went past us with the deer on our ATV after dark.....I believe it all stemmed from this and that is why I would really liked to have known what the actual complaint was and what lies were told to get so much heat in to investigate

I'll bet money you were reported as jack lighters. The vehicle that drove by wouldn't have happened to get your vehicle license numbers,would they? Maybe,local hunters out to screw over "out-of-towners"? The OMNR needed to have that info just to have a starting point. From what you've said,the CO's would have walked your tracks back,all the way to were you said you shot at the Deer. If your info didn't add up,it would look like they had you cold for trespassing to hunt,jack-lighting (poaching) and anything else they can lay on you.They would certainly have there information correct before the charges were laid. Like,it's not there first time at the dance. The fact the JP wasn't buying any of the alibis bears that out. It's never ceased to amaze me how easy it is to get into shyte. A couple of dumb mistakes and you're screwed,like assuming,incorrectly,that it's OK to trespass to retrieve game without reporting it. That would have ended the entire scenario.

[brent]

Brent.....once the CO makes the landowner aware of a downed animal on there land and they do nothing about it is when they can get into trouble.....that is what we were told....

I believe that is what u were told but i also believe it is incorrect.

Unless the deer is laying dead in sight how does the CO actually know it is?

What if the landowner is not home and cannot retrieve it? Will he be charged when he returns if it has spoiled? What if they where physically incapable of retrieving it?

Again I believe that's what you were told but I believe it is completely wrong. Give the MNR a call and ask them.

The OPP officer that told you you had to tag a road kill is 100% completely wrong and told you to do an illegal act.

[Deerslayer99]

Brent......lol.....wasn't me that mentioned about the OPP tagging road kill.....that was someone else