Growling Lab

[impact]

errrr... be careful on that last statement....lol Animals have been known to turn on their masters and eat them as well....lol

[last5oh_302]

The only thing sad is that you have yet to learn with all your new system that your dealing with an ANIMAL , A DOG . You put the dog on such a high pedestal and yourself beneath which is not the way of the hierarchy of the world .Dogs were domesticated for us to use .i worry that folks such as yourself and Sharon are not far removed from some that think we should not hunt or work our dogs .You have not stated this but that's how you come across . Run to the vets for every little thing , coddle them , put coats on them etc etc . Well a dog is just a dog no matter how high a pedestal you wish to put him on .I love mine but he and I both know who is at the top of the pecking order and if in the end I was starving I would eat him just as I would any other animal .

Why are you putting words in my mouth, words I've never said?

Hey, I offered my advise and if you don't like it then do your thing. I really don't give a rats arse but if I can offer advise that will help somebody, they're free to read it and choose on their own. Sorry you disagree.

Great story though bro!

[oaknut]

The only thing sad is that you have yet to learn with all your new system that your dealing with an ANIMAL , A DOG . You put the dog on such a high pedestal and yourself beneath which is not the way of the hierarchy of the world .Dogs were domesticated for us to use .i worry that folks such as yourself and Sharon are not far removed from some that think we should not hunt or work our dogs .You have not stated this but that's how you come across . Run to the vets for every little thing , coddle them , put coats on them etc etc . Well a dog is just a dog no matter how high a pedestal you wish to put him on .I love mine but he and I both know who is at the top of the pecking order and if in the end I was starving I would eat him just as I would any other animal .

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You got it boss. A flaming is in order here when one dares mention it but a dog is a dog, an animal and yes lol food if need be. It drives me nuts when people try to humanize their pets. This humanization is what started all this PETA and SPCA crap. Ohhh your dog can't go outside..... ohhh you can't train your dog like that. What a bunch..... do what is required to train the animal right. No kids face is worth a dogs next breath.

[400bigbear]

Well last50h your manner is often condescending saying the proven old ways are not right and that were small minded if we don't do it by the new huggy , feel goody way . Actually my first post in this thread although a shot at you and mother Sharon was meant in humour but you seem to get defensive if your way differs from many of ours . But while I have you in my crosshairs I may as well fire another over your bow . Lol A complete hijack but I did see you mention your Rottis don't drool .? Methinks your blind bud as I've seen my share of rottis and have yet to see one that doesn't but just incase you best rush yours to a vet . Lol Oaknut . Thumbs up . You understand that humans are humans and far far removed from dog DNA .

[Sharon]

thread derailed again... LOL
seriously I would have liked to know if the pup was just bored with the gals or not…

Yep. Hard to see this come to the dog forum, but we seem to be attracting the "off forum" fighters lately.

You don't know me BB as well as you think. 50 years of successful gun dogs / foster teens/20 years at the jail working . I can't be all that soft.

Difference between us , is that I don't start out with the " big guns " when dog training. Never necessary.

You're lucky I've only had one coffee so far. Now get back to work!

** My apologies Belle river for my part in taking your thread off topic.

[ebenezer]

Belleriver you really need to help your wife and daughter establish themselves with this dog or you will be rehoming it. I have had three incidence of dogs growling at the females and younger children. One was a golden retriever that put itself above the youngest child in the household. The owners worked hard to correct the problem but by chance one day the wife was home and look out the window and saw the dog put the neighbours child down and attack him. Thank goodness it was winter and the child had on a heavy snowsuit and knew how to protect his head. That dog was put down that day. The second was a yellow lab and it would growl when the wife and daughter tried to make it get off the furniture or take something from it. This dog was not vicious but it knew who it could boss in the family. They were flabbergasted one night in class when I saw the daughter slip it an unearned treat and I walked over pried its mouth open and reached down its throat and took the treat. It didn't even put up a fight cause it knew I was boss. This dog was rehomed. The third was a shepherd type the family bought off KIJIJI. To make a long story short it too started to dominate the youngest child, to the point where it bit. This dog too was put down.
I would suggest that you look for a couple of books, one is Good Owners Great Dogs by Brian Killcommon, or his How to Child Proof. . Your Dog. These are both good resources and have a common sense approach. The other one I can't keep on my shelf because people don't ever return it is How to Raise a Puppy You Can Live With by Rutherford and Rutherford It takes you through the different stages of the pup's development and again is good common sense training. The former you can order through Coles and I used to get my copies of Rutherford and Rutherford from the CKC. There are good resources out there. I would also suggest a good basic obedience class, not a puppy socialization class. You need one where your wife does the work and teaches the dog to follow her commands.

[Ganer]

My 1 year old lab has developed a bad habit that I am seeking advise on.

When I am home she is golden & behaves very well. Probably because I am the one who did all the obediance training with her. I have spent many hours with her training & I execise her for a min of 1hr a day off leash in fields or the bush & she behaves very well & take her rabbitt hunting. She is a champ of a dog in the field.

When I am not home she is a total bratt. She finds something to steal like a sock/pillows/eye glasses/laptops or basically anything she can carry & plays keep away with my wife & daughters. She knows these items are off limits & she clearly knows this gets a rise out of them.

I have taught her the "leave it" command & if I am home I give the command & she drops whatever she has.

When I am not home she will stand her ground & growls @ the girls. She eventually gives up & drops it but I am afraid she will bite one of these times when they go to grab the item.

She is a smart cookie & knows when I am not around.

Has any-one ever experianced this before & what did you do?

I am quoting the original post to remind everyone to stay on topic, if you can't, I will gladly remove you from the thread.

[krakadawn]

Belleriver,
Always tough making suggestions when we don't see first hand the observable behaviour that we wish to eliminate; howevere for what it's worth:

-go back and soundly review the basics, sit, stay, here ,heel, drop, down and drop
-be sure even you are getting a high standard. 'Most ' of the time is not good enough. Look carefully for small signs of avoidance like slow to comply, turning head, not sitting on initial command......am sure you get the picture
-have your daughters join you once the review is complete, allow them to watch you carefully....tone, stature, commands etc
-do a simple retrieve as a drill right from sit to sit.
-next day daughter takes dog through drill with you present. Drill can be with a bumper. It can be a basic retrieve with a sit to deliver then get up, walk at heel, sit again then deliver to hand. You coach daughter as you go through the drill.

What you are attempting to do is put some consistency with the type of approach that all the family will use......commands etc. You are also communicating the difference between play time and work time. In this case you are giving her clear notice you are now on work time. Too much play time with lack of standards can get them sloppy.

Dogs need to know they are accountable regardless if it's me, my daughter or wife.....sit means sit.....down means down etc. I haven't even mentioned the use of an e-collar which would clean this up so fast, you'd be surprised.

Go back for several days with this approach and let us know how things are.

Regards,

[trkyhntr21]

errrr... be careful on that last statement....lol Animals have been known to turn on their masters and eat them as well....lol

No he is safe he owns a dog it's the cat people who should be worried those things would eat ya before you cooled.