.308 vs 30-06

[MikePal]

Not many people actually use a 220gr bullet in a .30 cal. In fact the 180 is likely the most useful/popular for both the .30-06 and .308.

When I first shot the 180gr (what they carried at CT) I was applauded at how unnecessary it was for so much recoil to shoot deer at less than 200 yds....I dropped to 150 for the .303 and I'm very happy with that bullet . I will be reloading all my .303 with 150 gr Spitzer's. .

[terrym]

The minimal difference in recoil between the weights doesn't mean much to me, especially in a hunting rifle. The convenience of not switching up to a heavier bullet for moose has value. Deer don't care if hit by a 180 or 150 but a 180 is better choice on a moose. Your average duck gun has double the recoil of a hunting rifle and guys shoot hundreds of rounds in a season without thinking about it.

[terrym]

The advantage to the 3.08 is a slightly shorter action if you were to buy your guns in a semi automatic. Who really needs a semi in 30 cal anyways. .

There are thousands of hunters who would disagree with that comment which is why the Remingtons, Browning semi autos are so popular. They also have the same receiver regardless of case length.

[werner.reiche]

Not many people actually use a 220gr bullet in a .30 cal. In fact the 180 is likely the most useful/popular for both the .30-06 and .308. The other thing is the .30-06 is notoriously under loaded by factories so the two are far closer in velocity than most would expect. At the distance the OP stated as his intended use there is no deer,bear,moose that would ever feel a difference. Worry more about selecting a rifle you prefer, the cambering is secondary if choosing between the .308 and .30--06.

The recoil from the 220 grains is nasty. Worse than a .444.

[Bluebulldog]

Since it was only touched on, I'll mention that the 8mm is the metric equivalent to the 308/30-06 It's usually only found in a 170 gr, when you can find it, so a bit heavier and slower, but makes an excellent bullet choice for hunting pretty much all big game out to 200 yds.

...but what makes it superior is that it's shot from guns using a Mauser blot action..far superior to anything made now a days

That's why I have a Zastava in .308.....

[terrym]

[QUOTcertainly seeebulldog;865455]That's why I have a Zastava in .308.....[/QUOTE]

They certainly seem like great value. Hard to beat a Mauser action. How are the triggers on the Zastavas?

[Bluebulldog]

My vote is for the .308. I own two of them.

If you troll through the threads, there were a number of reasons why I advocate for it.

1. Milsurp ammo is plentiful, so range days don't have to be terribly expensive.
2. Short action, more guns are chambered in it.
3. You can find ammo for it anywhere, the same can be said for 30-06 of course, it's just one of the criteria why I like the .308. If you are ever in the North, you can find a box of ammo ( usually mom and pop general stores have about 6 calibers .22LR, .303Brit, 30-06, .308, .270, and 12gauge.)
4. Ballistically it's identical to the 30-06 at least under 300M. It isn't offered in heavier bullets like 200grain+, but not necessary for any game on this continent.

[Bluebulldog]

They certainly seem like great value. Hard to beat a Mauser action. How are the triggers on the Zastavas?

Mine was a little stiff, but a little clean up and it's beauty. My Zastava has the mannlicher stock, and 21" barrel, it's a sweetheart.

[terrym]

The recoil from the 220 grains is nasty. Worse than a .444.

I was actually just thinking of trying a 444. Since I sold my 350 mag I feel like I have a big bore void in the vault....lol. do you use one?

[terrym]

Mine was a little stiff, but a little clean up and it's beauty. My Zastava has the mannlicher stock, and 21" barrel, it's a sweetheart.

Damn!!! That sounds sweet. Do they have the Mannlicher style in a Swede?