How would you hunt this

[aaron86]

Hi I'm having trouble hunting coyote in this area can't seem to get them in the open I'm using a rabbit decoy and a primos dogg catcher for reference the small field is 220yrd x 100 yrd

[MikePal]

Hard to hunt a property that small with roads on all sides. That bottom field has very limited options. Getting into the trees in the centre and shooting toward the bush is about the only choice (for that field). Maybe to the left side of the pic depending on what is there and if you have permission.

That small field is about your best choice, shooting postion dependent on the wind direction.

[SongDog]

Properties like that are only good with very select wind directions. You don't want the wind blowing towards the bush or they will wind you without you seeing them.


You don't want the wind blowing directly away from it (I never have luck) I don't think coyotes will venture out in the open when they have to go that far to get downwind.

A nice cross wind where you can set up on the corner of that small field and have the caller and decoy about 50 yards away near the end of the bush so the coyote would have to still expose himself to wind it, But not have to get too far from the bush.


Make it tempting for them, Not difficult or too easy, They will always come from where you don't expect it.


How many times have you called that spot, maybe they have caught on to your tune.....

[Hunter John]

Hard to say what you should do. For me I would sneak in that bush a 100 yards or so with a favorable wind and call softly. Leave the rifle at home and take a 12 with #4 buck , if nothing happens after 30 minutes sneak in another 50 yRds or so and squeak quietly for a bit longer. Seems the dogs you are plYing with (assuming they are there) dont want to come out in the open so sneak (with the rite wind) in to where they feel comfortable.

[fratri]

[aaron86]

I have only had the caller out their 2 or 3 times so far I know the yotes are there lots of tracks I do have pics on my trail cam but all from night

[twostroke]

I am no expert but like song dog stated I would sit in the corner you have illustrated and that wind should work...but more of a crosswind may work better where it is blowing from left to right of that small field or rt to left......as I have founf out the hard way they generally only come out when they can get to thedownwind side.....they like to have everything in their favor.

[DGearyFTE]

aaron, I am certainly not as succesful as frati and others. As such, I will not comment on their contributions since everything they are saying should lead to success.
I can share with you some of my thoughts. I normally like to use Google Earth or the mapping tools provided in this link http://www.giscoeapp.lrc.gov.on.ca/w...er/viewer.html
to get a good idea of the distances involved to ensure I am not trying to set up for a shot that is going to be beyond my ability to make. They also provide tools to measure paths so you can plan the amount of time your ingress will take. For example I know that with the sled behind me on snowshoes it takes me about 25 minutes to trek about 900-1000 yds depending on other terrain. And finally I can use the aviation weather from the closest airport to ensure that I have a good idea of the current and predicted winds. Since I live in Russell I find that using the aviation weather (which tends to be more detailed and accurate) from Ottawa International is a good source.
This is todays weather from Toronto. So reading below you will see 19006KT = winds from 190 deg magnetic at 6 kts. You might also see something like 19018G30KT which would be 190 deg magnetic winds steady at 18 knots gusting to 30 knots. To convert kph to knots is 1.9xkts = kph. There are plenty of resources online to help you decipher the other data related to cloud types, heights and precip. Either that or PM skypilot
TORONTO/LESTER B. PEARSON INTL/ON
METAR CYYZ 291800Z 19006KT 140V220 1/2SM R24L/3500VP6000FT/D

[werner.reiche]

aaron, I am certainly not as succesful as frati and others. As such, I will not comment on their contributions since everything they are saying should lead to success.
I can share with you some of my thoughts. I normally like to use Google Earth or the mapping tools provided in this link http://www.giscoeapp.lrc.gov.on.ca/w...er/viewer.html
to get a good idea of the distances involved to ensure I am not trying to set up for a shot that is going to be beyond my ability to make. They also provide tools to measure paths so you can plan the amount of time your ingress will take. For example I know that with the sled behind me on snowshoes it takes me about 25 minutes to trek about 900-1000 yds depending on other terrain. And finally I can use the aviation weather from the closest airport to ensure that I have a good idea of the current and predicted winds. Since I live in Russell I find that using the aviation weather (which tends to be more detailed and accurate) from Ottawa International is a good source.
This is todays weather from Toronto. So reading below you will see 19006KT = winds from 190 deg magnetic at 6 kts. You might also see something like 19018G30KT which would be 190 deg magnetic winds steady at 18 knots gusting to 30 knots. To convert kph to knots is 1.9xkts = kph. There are plenty of resources online to help you decipher the other data related to cloud types, heights and precip. Either that or PM skypilot
TORONTO/LESTER B. PEARSON INTL/ON
METAR CYYZ 291800Z 19006KT 140V220 1/2SM R24L/3500VP6000FT/D

Not that it makes much difference but metar wind directions are true, not magnetic.
Wikipedia has a good reference page on metar.

[skypilot]

All good advice and certainly from some excellent and successful coyote hunters.
My 2 cents for your consideration and for others that are wanting to try it.

On the weather/wind...I like to use several sources, NavCanada(aviation web for pilots is super) also local stations and nearest METAR data along with an old fashion plastic squeeze bottle with unscented talc/baby powder for "at the scene" wind direction.

I like to scout and see the used trails, activity levels, etc, etc, in order to pinpoint WHERE they are. I then put a dot on the map showing their location. I then draw a wind direction line thru their location. I then try to pick a good spot to locate myself without getting directly in their APPROACH wind as they come to the e-caller/decoy.


Once they are located try this 1 simple method.. X yotes,
.................................................. ...................l \
.................................................. ...................l..\
.................................................. ...................l...\ e-caller
.................................................. ...................l....\ ^
.................................................. ...................l. ...\ l *You
.................................................. ..................V......\l *You
.................................................. .................Wind ....*You

Some folk are visual others are more text oriented, however perhaps get a map, mark x where the yotes are(per scouting), draw the wind direction thru their location, then visually determine where you can set up to shoot when they circle downwind of wherever you choose to place your e caller. You can almost take that drawing above and align it on a map(with the known yotes location and wind) AND then see if there are any issues(like attempting to call them across a flat, sterile, open field, the Queensway Expressway, a river, etc.).

Conversely, look for good cover to hide yourself, natural gullies, snowmobile trails, cow paths, holes in fencing, etc. that will allow them to be comfortable approaching the e-caller/decoy, then plan your set up accordingly.

After that pick your plan apart using things like the sun(are you in sun or shade the WHOLE time? Shade good/sun bad. Don't wear eye glasses they reflect. Put a kill flash on your scopes objective lens(same reason as eyeglasses) and be still, approach silently, be familiar with ALL your gear(Remote, decoy so no fumbling required, set your scope magnification before walking in, just be ready with no real movement once you settle in.)

They are the hardest thing to fool with a GOOD set up and it's why I hunt them almost exclusively. They are also about 88-90% successful against me and my best planning.

Some days nothing seems to work, other days it seems you can get away with anything.....almost like Golf. lol