Two more big black eyes. What a shame!

[Fenelon]

http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story...ighlands-park/

http://www.intelligencer.ca/2014/12/...by-animal-trap

Good Lord, this crap has got to stop before we lose our trapping industry. Makes me sick to read this, and I really feel bad for the folks who lost their dogs. It doesn't seem like the message is being reinforced strongly enough. I don't care if you're on private property, or you're working Crown land on a registered line. If even the potential exists that other users (and their pets) are on that land, you need to take responsibility for their welfare. I don't know how you can leave a kill trap on the ground, and sleep at night. None of this had to happen. Take a few more minutes to make a responsible set, and get your trap elevated. I'm trying to imagine going for a grouse run with my Lab over at Kaw. Highlands, and having him killed because some pecker head left a kill set on the ground, on public land. I'm not seeing a positive outcome. It's almost to the point now that it might be time to get an ammendment to the regs, to protect the industry eg. listed townships where it is an offence to put your kill set on the ground. Something has to change, or our days are numbered if this keeps up!

Dave

[trimmer21]

http://www.mykawartha.com/news-story...ighlands-park/

http://www.intelligencer.ca/2014/12/...by-animal-trap

Good Lord, this crap has got to stop before we lose our trapping industry. Makes me sick to read this, and I really feel bad for the folks who lost their dogs. It doesn't seem like the message is being reinforced strongly enough. I don't care if you're on private property, or you're working Crown land on a registered line. If even the potential exists that other users (and their pets) are on that land, you need to take responsibility for their welfare. I don't know how you can leave a kill trap on the ground, and sleep at night. None of this had to happen. Take a few more minutes to make a responsible set, and get your trap elevated. I'm trying to imagine going for a grouse run with my Lab over at Kaw. Highlands, and having him killed because some pecker head left a kill set on the ground, on public land. I'm not seeing a positive outcome. It's almost to the point now that it might be time to get an ammendment to the regs, to protect the industry eg. listed townships where it is an offence to put your kill set on the ground. Something has to change, or our days are numbered if this keeps up!

Dave

Blaming the trapper isn't right. Notice that the traps were set well off the trails. Nowhere,except in a designated "dog park",are dogs allowed to be off-leash when not confined to their own property. People need to keep their pets on a leash.

[jaycee]

Blaming the trapper isn't right. Notice that the traps were set well off the trails. Nowhere,except in a designated "dog park",are dogs allowed to be off-leash when not confined to their own property. People need to keep their pets on a leash.

I agree with you to an extant, however whom ever set the trap , should also have given more thought as to where he set it knowing full well that the public uses the trail for their own pleasure .
Just a thought , maybe this was a planned set up ????

[skypilot]

Pretty much a cardinal rule. Don't set traps where non-targeted animals(pets/livestock) can get in them. For most situations that means off the ground/well off roads, trails etc.

I have had private land in the States where a land owner's daughter(unknown to her dad) allowed her boyfriend to "walk his dog" on that property." Fortunately, my sets were safe WRT his dog however, he took it upon himself to spring them as he discovered them the first time, which was dangerous in a whole different way.

[adolan]

It is a delicate situation for sure. I'll be interested to see what the outcome is, although I'm doubtful that anything will happen. Just to clarify the dog that was killed near KHPP was actually not in the park but on crown land close to the park. Not that it really makes a difference but I would hate to see the park getting pressured to ban trapping because of misinformation.

[Waftrudnir]

.... Nowhere,except in a designated "dog park",are dogs allowed to be off-leash when not confined to their own property. People need to keep their pets on a leash.

city guy ;-)
next time I go hunting, I'll think of you when I carry my dog in a purse...

[Downwind]

Nowhere,except in a designated "dog park",are dogs allowed to be off-leash when not confined to their own property. People need to keep their pets on a leash.

Huh?.....

[Gilroy]

Blaming the trapper isn't right. Notice that the traps were set well off the trails. Nowhere,except in a designated "dog park",are dogs allowed to be off-leash when not confined to their own property. People need to keep their pets on a leash.

Wabbit huntin with beagles? coyote Huntin with hounds? Its so much harder with these dammed leashes.

[Sharon]

Takes a special setter to find pheasant when leashed. Just giving you a hard time Trimmer.

However, whenever you let a dog off the leash to hunt , a multitude of things can go wrong ; an unexpected trap is just one of them . Just a risk you take. jmo

[Waftrudnir]

lazy trappers like this one will cause drastic changes in regulations sooner than later. just wait until a person dies and it'll be all done with even in the land of the pelts...
I saw that before (although trapping was over there at that time only predator management). Some lazy idiot put an egg next to a public hiking trail (chicken eggs for martens, because of the few legal type of traps there even back then). Some old woman picked it up for whatever reason. The wannabe trapper came back and put out another egg, the same old woman came by and picked it up... Finally, that guy puts out the trap. Because it's next to the trail, he makes sure it cannot be stolen! Did a really good job digging all the chain with the lock in. Anyway, the old woman comes back, picks up the egg and hangs in there with her arm unable to free herself. Long story short, she died of hypothermia, because that idiot chained it to a tree with a lock.
The moral of the story, the idiot got charged, and because he lacked common sense, the rules were improved in favour of public safety: Need a sign for a trap, trap to be placed in fenced area or enclosure. A few years later, further improvement (although I don't remember what triggered that; maybe just some left wing urbanites) came along - you were supposed to put the "safety" on during the daytime (meaning you have to walk up to each trap twice a day!). Useless to say, that there's nobody left to complain about the fur market any longer...