To leash or not to leash!!!

[fishy steve]

Sheep dogs are working dogs. They are specially trained to chase off vermin.

they are running at large... if a deer crosses the fenceline they will attack... if you cross that fenceline they will attack...

wait almost sounds like im agreaing with you...

[fishermccann]

I live in the GTA, a busy suburb, my dog (8yr old Golden Ret.) is never on a leash. Unless I am going to a store in the plaza, but that is for the other people . She will not leave her-our property unless I tell her to. But then again , there are no deer on our block.

[Bluebulldog]

That's right!!

You clearly miss overt sarcasm when it's applied as well.

And there you go insulting another member Blue Lk. accusing him of something totally out of the ether....

[Waftrudnir]

Blue lake, your the kind of neighbor that would watch his neighbors house get robbed and say nothing because " It's not your business".

Business – that’s all you care about!
If one of your American hunters sees a dog he might get upset about it, i.e. what is he paying for?
On the other hand, you don’t want to haul the bait too far and your guests don’t want to walk a lot and ATVs ain't for free, right.
Simple solution is to pester the neighbors to leash their dogs, so you can conveniently continue being fed by people from out of town.
Based on all the things you stated (90% of posts you had to modify already), you really seem to be that kind of neighbor nobody wants to end up with!

[chris lavoie]

I just got in from 4 hours of snowshoing and you posters are still at it!!!

I edit to fix my spelling etc. Waftrudnir, you make no sense at all.

You loud minority posters on this thread apparently don't care whether your unleashed ( at large) mutts run and kill or stress whitetails.

There are 2 disputes going on right now, where neighbors down the road, have filed complaints of dogs, like yours Waftrudnir, running at large.

So Blue Lake, you know nothing!!

[chris lavoie]

I just got in from 4 hours of snowshoing and you posters are still at it!!!

I edit to fix my spelling etc. Waftrudnir, you make no sense at all.

You loud minority posters on this thread apparently don't care whether your unleashed ( at large) mutts run and kill or stress whitetails.

There are 2 disputes going on right now, where neighbors down the road, have filed complaints of dogs, like yours Waftrudnir, running at large.

So Blue Lake, you know nothing!!

Also, last year as the local river was melting in the middle, an unleashed (at large) mutt chased a doe deer into the river. The deer ended up going over the falls. Dog wasn't a large dog either!!

[fishy steve]

I just got in from 4 hours of snowshoing and you posters are still at it!!!

I edit to fix my spelling etc. Waftrudnir, you make no sense at all.

You loud minority posters on this thread apparently don't care whether your unleashed ( at large) mutts run and kill or stress whitetails.

There are 2 disputes going on right now, where neighbors down the road, have filed complaints of dogs, like yours Waftrudnir, running at large.

So Blue Lake, you know nothing!!

lol what about the ones outright and delete, you flip your opinion more ofton than a liberal politician on the gun registry vote.

glad blue lake pointed that out, was thinking i was gonna need to avoid the area like i do toronto lol

fact is, yes some dogs running at large can be a nuiscance, they can run and kill deer, your average house hold or farm dog will not, and dosent mean every dog in the country needs to be on a leash or tied up in a fenced in back yard. people poach deer and moose, people shoot sows with cubs, does that mean we should outright ban hunting all together?

[trappermatt]

I have a somewhat unique perspective on this as I've seen what happens when dogs run at large just like Chris , like I've said in a different thread no trapper wants to catch a dog , the attitude that if your dog runs off 50m and then gets caught is the trappers fault is a little off to me , you took the risk when you decided to let your dog run , I've owned dogs all my life and had more then one get run over by a vehicle , I knew that was a risk the minute I unsnapped the lead and I didn't have words for the vehicle operator ,waftrudnir nearly every acre of crown land here in the province is someone's trapline , so I don't understand how a responsible owner wold risk their pets safety , it's not like trappers tie up the land all year or anything of that sort , so tell me why pet owners want trappers to change but yet aren't offering anything in return expect the attitude that I will do what I want

[chris lavoie]

Another landowner here had 360 acres. He also had a 3 acre active beaver pond within it. He walked with his dog down the many trails throughout his land with his dog running ahead of him, off the leash (at large).

His dog was a young golden retriever. Guy would throw large objects to get the dog to retrieve, trying to train the dog for waterfowl hunting.

As he was out for a walk around near the beaver pond, he heard the slap of a beavers tail. The dog took off full tilt and jumped in and started to swim toward the beaver, thinking his master threw a stick in the water. The dog owner yelled and screamed at the dog but all the dog wanted was that tail that kept slapping repeatedly.

All of a sudden the beaver turned on the dog. Scrapping and fiercely biting the dog in the face etc. The dog was wore out fighting the beaver and by the time the beaver was done with the dog, it was in poor shape.

Eventually the dog owner took the dog to the vet and cost him a huge amount of money to save his dog. The dog was blind in one eye.

Think this doesn't happen much? Wrong!!

[fishy steve]

I have a somewhat unique perspective on this as I've seen what happens when dogs run at large just like Chris , like I've said in a different thread no trapper wants to catch a dog , the attitude that if your dog runs off 50m and then gets caught is the trappers fault is a little off to me , you took the risk when you decided to let your dog run , I've owned dogs all my life and had more then one get run over by a vehicle , I knew that was a risk the minute I unsnapped the lead and I didn't have words for the vehicle operator ,waftrudnir nearly every acre of crown land here in the province is someone's trapline , so I don't understand how a responsible owner wold risk their pets safety , it's not like trappers tie up the land all year or anything of that sort , so tell me why pet owners want trappers to change but yet aren't offering anything in return expect the attitude that I will do what I want

i think the average person would accept the resposibilty for this, especially a dog that is 50 M ahead... but trappers also need to be resposnaible where they set their traps... dont set a trap close to a trail that is regulary used by public, whether they are walking their dogs or just out for a walk themselves... not only a danger, also not good plubicity where somebody walks by and sees a dead animal caught in a trap on the side of the walking trail...