Interference with hunting, trapping fishing or sport shooting - proposed amendment to Criminal Code

[smitty55]

[QUOTE=welsh;879377 But let's ask the question another way: how many activists are likely to run onto shooting ranges to stop people from shooting?[/QUOTE]

Well, we already know that many of them aren't dealing with a full deck of cards, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Cheers

[onelessarrow]

Thanks welsh, I missed the answer in your post.
Sport shooter would be nice to see added.

[onelessarrow]

Good for you. The neighbor was simply a bully and you stood up to him,as everyone who finds they are dealing with a bully should do. I certainly wouldn't have been as civil.

I hear ya, this turned out costing me permission on a farm across the road. He'd been around to all the neighbors and persuaded this one farmer to stop any shooting.
unfortunately I have permission all around said property and it's put me in a bit of a dilemma with the farmer.
One of the last things I said to the neighbor was if you get in my face like you are right now while I'm hunting out back, I could have a charge laid against you for interferring in a hunt. That was in an effort to explain how legal it was to shoot around here.
I basically wouldn't let him leave until I filled him with as much propaganda as I could muster.
I left him with, I certainly won't support you and don't effect the number of birds I put in my freezer.
The irony was, he already had, I just didnt know it.

[Snowwalker]

Well, we already know that many of them aren't dealing with a full deck of cards, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Cheers

I know of a range where the kids would wander through the woods to the range, You get six to ten guys popping away with rifles for a few minutes and then turn to see kids standing behind them. The real problem is that they had to walk through the 3-D bow range to get to the rifle/pistol/black powder ranges. You got people shooting arrows down lanes that have limited visibility between the archer and the target, with thick brush behind the target. Ya there are dirt backstops for the arrows butt they have bushes in front. The 3-D range is behind the normal Archery range, and arrows from that range can go into the woods. They use one or the other archery range at a time. Most times it's the front range with the butts, so if the kids are walking in the trees they are out of sight.

The cops have been called a couple times but since they are kids no trespass charges, I don't think the parents care or understand why the members are so worked up.

[welsh]

You wouldn't be able to stick those kids with a criminal charge, though.

[Snowwalker]

You wouldn't be able to stick those kids with a criminal charge, though.

No same story as the trespass, but now think how the parents would react to the interference offence that carries a jail term.
Kids are not getting charged, but not mommy is looking at little johnny different when she gets told the if it happens again the parents will be help responsible.

[welsh]

No, it's not the same story as the trespass.

You couldn't stick the kids with the interference charge because they would not be guilty of interference. Any criminal charge that carries a jail sentence requires the crown to show an element of intent. The kids would have to be intentionally interfering with the range.

[Snowwalker]

No, it's not the same story as the trespass.

You couldn't stick the kids with the interference charge because they would not be guilty of interference. Any criminal charge that carries a jail sentence requires the crown to show an element of intent. The kids would have to be intentionally interfering with the range.

By same story I mean look at the same events. Kids repeatedly walk through the woods to get to the rifle range. IF they enter the property knowing that it creates a danger to themselves, then they know that they are interfering with the range. First time they did it...I think we should let it slide, tell them why not to do it, and leave it at that.

As for the kids not being charged. I am pretty sure that 12 to 15 year old kids CAN be charged with trespass.
How old do I have to be to be charged with a crime?

You must be at least 12 years of age.
If you do something while you are under 12 that would be a crime if you were older, you cannot be charged. Child Protection or other services might become involved. This is based on an assumption that the few youth under 12 who do engage in serious crimes can be dealt with more effectively by child welfare or mental health agencies.
If you break a law after you turn 12 but you are under 18, you may be charged with a crime in the youth criminal justice system. You will be governed by the federal Youth Criminal Justice Act (YCJA).

Here is the Link.

http://www.law-faqs.org/wiki/index.p...berta/Criminal

[trimmer21]

I know of a range where the kids would wander through the woods to the range, You get six to ten guys popping away with rifles for a few minutes and then turn to see kids standing behind them. The real problem is that they had to walk through the 3-D bow range to get to the rifle/pistol/black powder ranges. You got people shooting arrows down lanes that have limited visibility between the archer and the target, with thick brush behind the target. Ya there are dirt backstops for the arrows butt they have bushes in front. The 3-D range is behind the normal Archery range, and arrows from that range can go into the woods. They use one or the other archery range at a time. Most times it's the front range with the butts, so if the kids are walking in the trees they are out of sight.

The cops have been called a couple times but since they are kids no trespass charges, I don't think the parents care or understand why the members are so worked up.

Was this occurring at a certified range? Ranges are supposed to be securely fenced off so something like that can't happen by accident. Wouldn't you be absolutely devastated if some kid walking through the woods caught a bullet or an arrow? Under law,the onus is always on the firearm user to use it in a safe manner.

[Snowwalker]

Was this occurring at a certified range? Ranges are supposed to be securely fenced off so something like that can't happen by accident. Wouldn't you be absolutely devastated if some kid walking through the woods caught a bullet or an arrow? Under law,the onus is always on the firearm user to use it in a safe manner.

They were climbing over the six foot fence...A fence with signage on it. I don't know how it would look if that club turned to topping the fence with razor wire to stop people from climbing over, but maybe that has to be done.