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March 5th, 2015, 08:38 AM
#41

Originally Posted by
sullyy
I believe this is wrong. The CO would have to prove that you did not tag the animal immediately and at the kill site.
Also, any reasonable person would have a hard time arguing that this picture is for sure not at the kill site...
If you have a picture of something that should have a seal visible (like a deer antler or ear) and it does not have a game seal that right there is proof that you did not attach the game seal immediately after the kill and at the kill site, it proves you took a picture first.
People have been charged for this in the past, forums are sure to make sure that photos where the game seal should be visible have them visible.
The concern was that the photo says jake with no identifying items that point it out as a jake. The tail is straight and there is no real colour in the head. The OP has brought up the picture asking if anyone else sees an issue with the picture, a number of people on here have seen concerns but unless they have other information they cannot prove anything.
The seal in the picture question was asked about posting pictures with no proof of sealing, pictures are not allowed on the forum that are questionable but the OFAH does not seem to be concerned about it with their magazine or website.
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March 5th, 2015 08:38 AM
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March 5th, 2015, 08:43 AM
#42
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Fox
If you have a picture of something that should have a seal visible (like a deer antler or ear) and it does not have a game seal that right there is proof that you did not attach the game seal immediately after the kill and at the kill site, it proves you took a picture first.
If you party hunt and your buddy has the tag and is not at the site yet, haven't move the deer and someone take a picture of you and the deer, you have not done anything against the law.
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March 5th, 2015, 08:55 AM
#43
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
skypilot
Yep, too many petty azzed Crown lawyers here for some people to post kill or fish pics. So on one hand you have the outsiders(like the antis trying to hassle and ruin hunting, like those CoyHunter posted about a few years back)and the insiders here doing the same.
So true, and so sad.....
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March 5th, 2015, 10:50 AM
#44
I think bottom line who cares!!!looks like a legal bird to me and unless anyone was there it should look the same to them as well. We have all been there maybe it was his first and posed with excitement before throwin a tag on, maybe its a bearded hen(still legal)....maybe it is a pygmy tom....at the end of the day its the shooters bird (trophy) and one can only assume everything was done legal and shouldnt lose sleep over it.
Arguing over crap shoot pics with missing info is irrelavant and makes it very hard for anyone to enjoy others success or want to post pics of your own sucess for fear someone over analyzes everything.Instead as fellow hunters maybe just take the time to congratulate them on their sucess and leave the missing details and the story to those that were truly there.
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March 5th, 2015, 11:09 AM
#45

Originally Posted by
seabast
If you party hunt and your buddy has the tag and is not at the site yet, haven't move the deer and someone take a picture of you and the deer, you have not done anything against the law.
That is up for interpretation.
Immediacy is what is key here, you are not to do anything with the animal before it has the seal applied, the CO will determine if they want to charge you, posting online increases exposure which can increase issues.
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March 5th, 2015, 11:22 AM
#46
ohhhhh now I see whats the funny part of the pic.............its the big s$%t eating grin on the guys face prob from shooting what he considers to be a trophy lol ya that is funny now.
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March 5th, 2015, 11:31 AM
#47
If someone decided to shoot a bearded hen then good for them,its legal. Why call it a young jake?
I've held small jakes in my hands before that weighed as little as 12.5 pounds and they still had a jake tail fan. In fact it was even more pronounced.
I once shot a two year old tom that only weighed 15.1 pounds and his fan looked like a toms fan.
Jakes have jake fans and that includes every province and state and sub species of turkey's that I've hunted.
If its a bearded hen the congratulations to the hunter but why call it a "young jake"?
Disagree if you want too but why call something something that its not?
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March 5th, 2015, 11:34 AM
#48
Hey Fox why you still going on with this silly argument? How come you did not comment on my scenarios? How does a Co, internet expert, or you, know anything about the REAL circumstances of a pic on the internet?
NO ONE....I repeat NO ONE has ever been charged based on a pic from the internet. I have a CO sitting here with me chuckling his arse off at that suggestion. 100% of the time they have other information and may use a pic to help them in thier investigation but if someone calls and all they have to report is a pic on the internet then that is the end of that. Usually they have an idea of who the local idiots are and sometimes those idiots will make thier job easier with pictures and social media but that is but one aspect in building cases.
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March 5th, 2015, 11:40 AM
#49

Originally Posted by
Fox
That is up for interpretation.
Immediacy is what is key here, you are not to do anything with the animal before it has the seal applied, the CO will determine if they want to charge you, posting online increases exposure which can increase issues.
We are also required to use the meat and it is an offense to allow game to spoil. Now in every article that I have read on what to do to preserve your kill, the first thing that they tell you to do is to field dress the animal, especially if the ambient temperature is warm or there is a chance the animal was gut shot. I have not and will not stand around and look at the animal while waiting for the tag to show up when party hunting when I could be gutting. The animal is never moved from the kill site until tagged though.
Personally, I always ensure that I take a couple of photos where the tag is visible including a close up to show the date notches cut. If a CO were to lay charges against me for not having a tag affixed to the bird because it's not visible in a picture posted on line I could produce several other photos that prove otherwise.
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March 5th, 2015, 01:17 PM
#50

Originally Posted by
Fox
That is up for interpretation.
Immediacy is what is key here, you are not to do anything with the animal before it has the seal applied, the CO will determine if they want to charge you, posting online increases exposure which can increase issues.
Really ? So a group are party hunting with one tag, the shooter can be over 30 minutes travel time from the tag holder or much more, and can still be well within the legal distance requirements, due to block layouts, road access etc. All requirements for party hunting are met. Are you telling us the animal cannot be field dressed ! I think what you meant was that the animal cannot be TRANSPORTED without the tag affixed ! The shooter can legally take pictures, position the animal for field dressing, field dress or even snuggle up to it if he chooses, while waiting for the tag to arrive !!!! CO's know full well that "immediately after the kill" is an impossibility in some party hunting scenarios. Give them a bit of credit !