thats what im saying, issue 2nd seals where it can support it... not everywhere could handle haveing every hunter carrying 2 seals, some places already have a high bear hunting presence, and some have near null...
the reducing bears to vermin status was more towards the "as many as you can kill" comment,,,
fishy steve
id rather be lost in the woods, than found in the city!
What I don't get is that, out of all the units included in the limited spring bear hunt that they brought back last year, i think unit 13 is the only one that gives out second seals. Why the hell wouldn't the mnr make second seals available in all of those units if the problems are so bad?
Maybe we need to look at this from a different angle. Maybe the reason it was done the way it was - was to ensure limited participation and a very small harvest. Then, when it was all over, the MNR could show the public that the spring hunt is not that much of a threat to the bear population. Then they could reopen the entire thing back to what we had before. It's extremely hard to close or open something once it has a foothold. If this was the MNR plan all along to "hoodwink" the public to get the entire spring bear hunt back - then I applaud them - good idea if that's what it takes.Originally Posted by Dude Bro
BUT (always a but) if this wasn't the plan then what they currently have "is a bad plan".
If you keep doing what you've always done. You'll keep getting what you've always got!
Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
My fear is the exact opposite: what if they use the low number of hunters and harvest to demonstrate that the spring bear hunt is a useless tool for managing bears, and therefore they don't need to look at reopening it?
What they are finding out is that they need, is a spring hunt including non residents. Resident spring bear hunting is fine but proves not to be the answer!!
They mentioned last year that they will expand the spring hunt if the resident only hunt does not work.
The MNR just announced they are going to hire 1700 this coming summer. How will they pay for this??
Side note, they just announced today the closing of our only bank (credit union) in town for good. Loss of 4 jobs. Credit Unions been here since early 60's.
So Skeeter, liberals don't care one bit about potential jobs or benefit to the economy in Northern Ontario.
Last edited by chris lavoie; March 14th, 2015 at 09:37 AM.
A spring bear hunt is good, but something has got to be done about the very high wolf populations. I think they take way more moose than bears, and not just the calves. Where I go the roads are littered with wolf scat and prints. A lot of the scat has moose hair in it.
You don't see moose hair in wolf scat here as there are no moose for them to eat!!
I agree, wolves likely have a greater impact. Wolves hunt year round and hunt in packs which makes them far more effective killers. Bears hibernate during the part of the year that moose are most vulnerable from deep snow to weakened energy due to lack of food. Wolves are carnivores and need meat whereas a bear is an omnivore and will also eat vegetation. Wolves depend on game animals far more than bears.
Last edited by terrym; March 14th, 2015 at 11:30 AM.
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