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March 27th, 2015, 02:22 PM
#11
Looks like they are going to go for it.....
Thériault said early estimates put the cost of creating a Quebec long gun registry at $30 million.
The Harper government passed legislation to end the federal long gun registry and destroyed most of its data in 2012. But the Quebec government argued it had a constitutional right to its records, so that province's data was protected until the issue was resolved in the courts. (Sean Kilpatrick/Canadian Press)
She reminded reporters that all Quebec MNAs unanimously voiced their dissent after the federal government announced it would destroy its long gun registry in 2012.
The desire for greater gun control is something that unites all Quebecers, Thériault continued, while noting 95 per cent of guns in Quebec are long guns and that the registry is consulted in Quebec 900 times a day by police officers and officers of the court.
Yves Francoeur, the head of the Montreal Police Brotherhood, said on Friday that he was disappointed by the Supreme Court’s ruling and called the registry "an essential tool for police officers."
"We need a Quebec long gun registry," he said in a statement. "The destruction of the data by the Conservative government is the equivalent of punishing Quebec taxpayers for ideological reasons."
Harper's press conference release (video) is included in the article below
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/queb...ling-1.3011843
Last edited by MikePal; March 27th, 2015 at 02:27 PM.
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March 27th, 2015 02:22 PM
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March 27th, 2015, 02:39 PM
#12

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
In your opinion would Quebec have the right to prevent other Canadians from passing throught there province with firearms that are not registered with them.
Dunno, but probably they could create a requirement that you can't possess an unregistered gun, & require you to register it with them.
But what Terry said.
In any case, all the promises to create a new registry may amount to nothing more than hot air in the end. Make noise about how mad you are, and then move on to other things ... politics as usual.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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March 27th, 2015, 02:47 PM
#13
I agree,welsh. The final turd has been flushed down the toilet. I can't see Quebec trying to stuff it back in.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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March 27th, 2015, 04:16 PM
#14

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Harper's press conference release (video) is included in the article below
Very, very interesting. Lets destroy them all!

Originally Posted by
PM Harper
"We have registration of all gun owners already. We have registration of all hand guns already. We have registration of all restricted weapons already... We simply don't need another very expensive and not effective registry," he said.
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March 27th, 2015, 04:41 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
I wouldn't be surprised if we hear all kinds of liberal "spin" and misinformation from the CBC. They beat the drum for the Liberal's gun control agenda from the get-go,louder than anybody.
You can say that again. I'm surprised the CBC hasn't tried to characterize the Winchester Model 94 as a dangerous gun in the hands of thousands of hunters since the shooting in Ottawa last Oct'.
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March 27th, 2015, 05:48 PM
#16
http://globalnews.ca/news/1908000/an...-gun-registry/
One difference between Canada and the United States is the contrast in attitudes to gun ownership and firearms themselves. One thing that stands out in the graph below is that there are fewer firearms in Canada compared to the United States, proportionate to population, but also far fewer privately owned handguns in proportion to long guns.
If Canada had American rates of private handgun ownership, we would have over 12 million handguns, instead of the 700,000 that we actually have.
Does that comment have any relevance to the discussion? Maybe the fact that the rules in effect since 1934 have had an effect on Canadians' desire/need to own handguns.
I like the graphic for "semi-automatic rifles" (a scary black AR15). I guess they couldn't find 1 for a Remington 7400.
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March 27th, 2015, 06:34 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
MikePal
It'll be interesting to see if Quebec decides to go ahead and built (from scratch) their own registry.....
Of course they will, they can get ever penny they need from federal transfers. They can also write it the way they want....can you think of any little PIA things they could put in it?
How about any firearm entering or leaving quebec must go thru an import/export process. The Canadian Firearms safety course would not meet the minumim standard for training, and Federal Storage laws would also not be good enough. Owners would be limited to the number of firearms they may own at one time.
A firearms would be reclassified, and must ammo made illegal and labeled as "cop killer" or something like that.
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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March 27th, 2015, 06:41 PM
#18
Well if they go that route it will pretty well kill the outfitting business.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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March 27th, 2015, 06:44 PM
#19
If Quebec was REALLY serious creating a registry, NEW legislation could have been introduced this morning in parliament. They've only had years to prepare for this moment and could have waved (a couple of pieces of paper) around during all the press conferences today. But they didn't. Considering all the anti-austerity (they're cutting spending in yesterdays budget) student riots going on in Quebec, lets see them come up with the money.
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March 27th, 2015, 07:30 PM
#20
It could very well kill gun ownership in Quebec. They could very well try to ban specific firearms in their Province and circumvent the government.

Originally Posted by
terrym
Well if they go that route it will pretty well kill the outfitting business.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member