Canned foods frozen and thawed repeatedly?

[Mdiddi]

Trash it.

As an experiment take a plain water bottle and let it freeze solid. After it's solid thaw it. Give it a shake once it's thawed and see what's inside. It will look like a snow globe with light flurries.

Also some of the can lining may contain bpa or other chemicals that can cause health problems and estrogen. Last thing you need is a bunch of estrogen.

I'm not a complete worry wart with food. I still can heat beans when working in the bush. Probably not the best thing to do.

[oaknut]

Trash it.

As an experiment take a plain water bottle and let it freeze solid. After it's solid thaw it. Give it a shake once it's thawed and see what's inside. It will look like a snow globe with light flurries.

Also some of the can lining may contain bpa or other chemicals that can cause health problems and estrogen. Last thing you need is a bunch of estrogen.

I'm not a complete worry wart with food. I still can heat beans when working in the bush. Probably not the best thing to do.

How does a can lining contain estrogen?
Sounds like a mountain dew sperm count tale.

[jim]

Lack Ontario drinking water contains aton of estrogen!

[oaknut]

Lack Ontario drinking water contains aton of estrogen!

I'm aware estrogen and progesterone are near impossible to filter from water, just not sure how it gets into plastic and metals.

[Mdiddi]

Hey oaknut I might have to eat a small piece of humble pie.

So bpa (in can linings and bottles) has estrogen qualities it does not cause estrogen. If you poke around on the web you will learn that people believe bpa has estrogen like responses kinda like a synthetic estrogen. I just learned that too. I always though bpa caused estrogen to increase.

I read somewhere that if you freeze cans or bottles you disturb the plastic lining containing bpa releasing more of it therefore ingesting more. Do my little experiment above and it's believable.

I don't know that you can find a can that is currently manufactured that doesn't contain a lining. Most manufactures use the bpa type lining. Maybe when daddy Trudeau was in office we still had metal cans with no lining. I don't know.

With a chemical that acts like estrogen.....no thanks for me. I know women are a but crazy at times but I trust them to deal with estrogen (or synthetic bpa estrogen) more than the guys I hunt with.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/w_ParentingResource/bpa-canned-foods-worry/story?id=14563600

http://www.breastcancer.org/risk/factors/plastic

[delmer]

Trash it.

As an experiment take a plain water bottle and let it freeze solid. After it's solid thaw it. Give it a shake once it's thawed and see what's inside. It will look like a snow globe with light flurries.

The white particles you see are minerals that have come out of solution due to the freeze-thaw cycle. They pose no danger when consumed. Here is a quote from Health Canada:

Some consumers have also expressed concern about the small white particles that often appear in bottled water that has been frozen and then thawed. These particles are minerals that separated from the water when it went through the extreme temperature change. They are not harmful to human health.

​http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv...eillee-eng.php

[JJL]

I have a rule that I try to instill on all members of our camp - take home whatever you brought up. I hate getting to camp only to find an assortment of canned goods and condiments stacked up, with no idea of how long they've been there. Especially annoying are the 3 or 4 open bottles of ketchup and mustard. Every fall after the moose hunt everything gets thrown out, and we start over again, with everyone promising not to leave foodstuffs behind. About the only thing that is left is a pack or two of spaghetti for emergencies.

amen brother, same thing at my place. but you are more than welcome to leave any bottles of booze you want.

[Fox]

We used to leave canned veggies at the camp all the time, when we forgot to bring something we dug into the camp stash and cooked it up.

A myth that keeps coming up is that you cannot eat meat that was thawed and re-frozen. You can do this and it is not unsafe if the temperature of the thawing was below the danger level for bacteria growth. Look at ground beef in the grocery store, most of it says right on it "made from fresh and frozen meat", it is not at all unsafe to freeze and then thaw this out and cook it for your family.

The part that is bad is thawing in the sink or on the counter, thawing like this puts the meat above the safe temperature for extended periods of time and allows for bacteria to grow quickly. If you thaw in the fridge you can re-freeze the meat and the only thing you may run into is a texture change and possibly some freezer burn from the moisture on the outside of the meat.

[Mdiddi]

Trash it.

As an experiment take a plain water bottle and let it freeze solid. After it's solid thaw it. Give it a shake once it's thawed and see what's inside. It will look like a snow globe with light flurries.

The white particles you see are minerals that have come out of solution due to the freeze-thaw cycle. They pose no danger when consumed. Here is a quote from Health Canada:

Some consumers have also expressed concern about the small white particles that often appear in bottled water that has been frozen and then thawed. These particles are minerals that separated from the water when it went through the extreme temperature change. They are not harmful to human health.

​http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv...eillee-eng.php

Who knew. They also said for a while red3 dye was safe. I don't drink bottle water anyways.

I'm with you oaknut on meat. I push the limits on leftovers and meat. I have never been stung. My father in law left the freezer unplugged when he was helping us reno our basements. Everything was thawed but cold. I kept it all including a lot of venison and some bear. My wife didn't eat any of it at first till she saw I didn't die. I'm still here

[Snowwalker]

Who knew. They also said for a while red3 dye was safe. I don't drink bottle water anyways.

I'm with you oaknut on meat. I push the limits on leftovers and meat. I have never been stung. My father in law left the freezer unplugged when he was helping us reno our basements. Everything was thawed but cold. I kept it all including a lot of venison and some bear. My wife didn't eat any of it at first till she saw I didn't die. I'm still here

Was she happy or disappointed.