Breeding Dogs

[Deerslayer99]

Looking for some advice/answers in the above title....i have been trying to stud my chocolate lab for the past 2 weeks with another chocolate ......this weekend is the es peak in her cycle and my lab has not even tried to get onto her yet.....he is almost 2 yrs old and she is almost 3 never bred....both virgins....any tricks or advice on how to would be greatly appreciated.....she seems to be ready for him and throwing her butt into him/nipping his neck/ears but all my boy does is try to get at her neck and bark but all in fun.....seems they are more playing then trying to do the deed.....is this what leads up to them getting close.....never done this sort thing before....thanks

[last5oh_302]

Not trying to be a smart a $ $ here, but it sounds like you're trying to be a backyard breeder. If you have to ask those questions you shouldn't be attempting it.

[Deerslayer99]

And what is the purpose of this forum then Last50h_32.....i suppose you were a professional at every single thing you have done in your life....yes you rubbed me the wrong way with your response to my question......if one doesn't know, ask.....how does one learn without asking or trying.....they are both pure breds so don't worry about that.....

[Hunter John]

Youre not feeding them Beneful or pro plan are you.? Sorry couldnt resist making a crack to lighten the mood, its obvious we are all passionate about our dogs and i believe asking questions is a good thing.. carry on gentleman.

[krakadawn]

Deerslayer,
A couple of constructive comments hopefully to address the issue. First, male dogs have a phenominal nose, when it's right.....it's right.....when it's not then it's not.
Several years ago I was doing a breeding and having the same luck. Had the female tested 3 times that week and the Vet thought by look of cells it was right. So we did a manual breeding with several of us all involved collecting and then installing the semen. We did this as it was a very important FT Champion x Field Champion and we wanted it to work. On the 18th day when some females are almost done things were right. The male dog would have gone through a wall and the ties were quick and good.

In some lines the females are early, some on time and some late in the cycle. You may have to wait. Watch his nose.

I trust both are healthy with clearances in place. Hope you had her checked for brucilosis for males sake as well. Be patient.

[Goosesniper]

Not trying to be a smart a $ $ here, but it sounds like you're trying to be a backyard breeder. If you have to ask those questions you shouldn't be attempting it.

That's a crappy response. Isn't this one of the great things about this forum. You can get advice from members who have similar interests. Everyone at some point knew nothing. You read to learn. You ask question to learn. Shame on you for this response.

[last5oh_302]

Yeah, that was a crappy response. My apologies.

I went on and assumed something I shouldn't have. It's just that you see so many breedings on places like Kijiji where breeding isn't done to better the breed, it's done to line the pockets of the breeder. An ethical breeder will usually have a mentor the first few times doing a breeding on their own. As krakadawn mentioned, heath testing should be done and registered on ONA so you can check the clearances on parents, grand parents, etc. There's a whole lot more, like titles where a breeder works with and proves their dogs prior to breeding them, etc. A breeder that follows all of those ethics doesn't make much if anything when you factor in the costs of health testing, training, showing, etc. They do it because they love and want to better the breed.

[fishy steve]

Yeah, that was a crappy response. My apologies.

I went on and assumed something I shouldn't have. It's just that you see so many breedings on places like Kijiji where breeding isn't done to better the breed, it's done to line the pockets of the breeder. An ethical breeder will usually have a mentor the first few times doing a breeding on their own. As krakadawn mentioned, heath testing should be done and registered on ONA so you can check the clearances on parents, grand parents, etc. There's a whole lot more, like titles where a breeder works with and proves their dogs prior to breeding them, etc. A breeder that follows all of those ethics doesn't make much if anything when you factor in the costs of health testing, training, showing, etc. They do it because they love and want to better the breed.

at the same time not everyone can afford to pay $1000+ for a puppy, those back yard breeders give people an opportunity to own a puppy without breaking the bank...

as mentioned, your male will know when its time, being he is inexperienced it may take him a try or 2 to realize whats going on, but he will figure it out... you remember what its like to be young :0

[Deerslayer99]

Last5oh_302.....apology accepted

everyone else, thanks for the responses and i never thought it would be this consuming to have 2 dogs do it but trial and error i will succeed .....

Fishy Steve...to be young again...get in get out.....lol

[last5oh_302]

at the same time not everyone can afford to pay $1000+ for a puppy, those back yard breeders give people an opportunity to own a puppy without breaking the bank...

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That's why you rescue, or adopt rather than lining the pockets of these backyard breeders. They make sure the dog pounds stay full, and if you take your time you can find pups in most breeds come up for adoption..