lyme disease vaccination worth it? Any cons?

[bonecollector23]

To start off both dogs of my dogs are on k9 advantix ii. I do nightly tick checks but the problem is that they are both golden retrievers and they have a lot of hair- possibility I can miss a small one. I was wondering if it worth getting a vaccination for Lyme disease for both.

My younger one does a lot of swimming at least twice a week and I know k9 advantix is waterproof but near end of the month, I sure k9 advantix loses its effect. So I am debating to get the lyme disease vaccination.

Did anyone considered this?

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[last5oh_302]

I considered it but learned it's very hit and miss in it's effectiveness. I opted for Bravecto (which I learned about here) which is administered via tablet and good for 3 months, so it's definitely water proof.

[joe16]

Got the same advice from my vet and on Bravecto too. The logic was that killing the ticks was the best defense to Lyme disease

[vom Dufenshmirtz]

most topicals are only effective against ticks for 3 weeks - RTFM.
I posted on Lyme vaccine before - search if interested.
Topical sprays work well in tick infested areas, which I don't think Pickering is...
The new collar, Soresto? gets excellent reviews (again as I posted already)

I guess if people didn't ask the same questions over and over, the board would be dead?

[Waftrudnir]

I was told that many vets don't like to stock it as there is not sufficient demand and they either have to overcharge you or suck up the loss in expired vaccine themselves.
I'm not sure if it has something to do with effectiveness, but the $$$ rational sounds pretty convincing to me as we haven't been overly aware of Borreliosis around here and the average vet might not have had many owners asking for it in the past (which might change in the future)

[krakadawn]

I have discussed this with my Vet numerous times. He does not advocate the lymes shot. He has told me of the numerous times the results are questionable. In the south many of the retriever trainers are currently using the soresto collars and leave them on for all water work. No doubt the brevecto pill simplifies the process but is in the neighbourhood of $50 per pill for 3 months.

[Sharon]

as said above but .. I keep a close eye for lyme disease symptoms in my dogs. Essential that the dog gets on antibiotics asap if symptoms are seen.
I've read that most? dogs test positive for lyme but don't get the disease.

symptoms associated with Lyme disease include:

• Stiff walk with an arched back.
• Sensitive to touch.
• Difficulty breathing.
• Fever, lack of appetite, and depression may accompany inflammation of the joints.
• Superficial lymph nodes close to the site of the infecting tick bite may be swollen.

http://www.2ndchance.info/lyme.htm

https://www.google.ca/search?sourcei...mptoms+in+dogs

[Fenelon]

I'd avoid the Soresto collars like a bad plague. The main active tick killing drug is imidacloprid - one of the most toxic of the neonics that are killing all of our pollinators. The chem is completely banned in Europe. Read the MSD on it and you will cringe - 1600 times more potent than DDT, severe endocrine disruptor, causes immune system collapse. Read some of the trials where people's dogs are having seizures after using the collars for a few months. There is enough of the neonic in your dog's urine from collar use to kill all the bees in your neighborhood! Make sure you do a thorough read-up before you put one on your beloved dog!

[Dakota Creek]

I have discussed this with my Vet numerous times. He does not advocate the lymes shot. He has told me of the numerous times the results are questionable.

Same information from our vet and in trying to intelligently cut back on the "stuff" we are putting into our dogs, the Lyme vaccine was dropped for our guys.

[Sharon]

I'd avoid the Soresto collars like a bad plague. The main active tick killing drug is imidacloprid - one of the most toxic of the neonics that are killing all of our pollinators. The chem is completely banned in Europe. Read the MSD on it and you will cringe - 1600 times more potent than DDT, severe endocrine disruptor, causes immune system collapse. Read some of the trials where people's dogs are having seizures after using the collars for a few months. There is enough of the neonic in your dog's urine from collar use to kill all the bees in your neighborhood! Make sure you do a thorough read-up before you put one on your beloved dog!

Of course even Advantix uses imidacloprid(8%) and permethrin (44%), so is toxic to all insects. We don't expect bees to be landing on the dog though.

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Imidacloprid binds strongly to insect nAChR causing intense activation of these receptors and resultant rigidity and paralysis of the insects (Thus killing it.)