Had one of those Drones check out my whirlybird

[fishermccann]

I wish JBen was here to tell you all about the rights of photographers, he says you have no rights to your own image , and they can take your picture whenever they want, I believe him.

[Fishy Wishy]

Your grasp of English seems questionable, here some help, let's try using a dictionary.

pervert noun [C]
› a person whose sexual behaviour is considered strange and unpleasant by most people


I would say a person exposing themselves to a drone would qualify or a person taking pictures of a sexual nature, but the owner of the drone had no intention like that and left when he encountered such a person so it obviously isn't the person taking the picture or video. He could be considered a pest maybe if he had hung around and buzzed him but that's obviously not the case so there seems to only be one person that fits in that regard so far.

Actually.
A pervert is a person who doesn't behave normally, often when it comes to sex.

"Often when it comes to sex" is not exclusivity. If you also look at the many meanings of "pervert" as a verb and understand the noun to be a person who perverts, or acts in perversion.

In this case he may also be called a "Peeping Tom"

Now to get on with the rest of your statement. You are a third party, unless it was you flying the drone. You as a third party cannot know the intention of the pilot. Perhaps the pilot gets his jollies (a perversion) from checking out dudes having a circle j@rk in a boat.

[mosquito]

Actually.
A pervert is a person who doesn't behave normally, often when it comes to sex.

"Often when it comes to sex" is not exclusivity. If you also look at the many meanings of "pervert" as a verb and understand the noun to be a person who perverts, or acts in perversion.

In this case he may also be called a "Peeping Tom"

Now to get on with the rest of your statement. You are a third party, unless it was you flying the drone. You as a third party cannot know the intention of the pilot. Perhaps the pilot gets his jollies (a perversion) from checking out dudes having a circle j@rk in a boat.

Correct, but neither can you, you are creating the impression that he is a "Peeping Tom" and making an assumption of his intent. Since he left when the perverted behaviour started we can make the assumption he wasn't fairly safely (but not absolutely).... or that he was low on battery...... what ever without a statement of his intent it IS speculation... even the sex of the controller.. perhaps SHE started laughing at the size of what he saw and hit recall is why it left then

Others have gone very far out of their way to pervert the word pervert and also made the assumption that they had rights in regards to their privacy and image taken in a public place.

As I understand it only a if you are a specific subject or model do you have rights to their image and just saying they were taking a picture of a boat on a lake gives the photographer full rights to use and distribute, there is even a artist I heard about taking images from others online photo albums to use in their work in galleries. Many peoples faces are now on display or even sold without their knowledge. Just look at Photobucket and their use of an image, many sign their rights away and if others want a framed picture etc. of someone else or in this case their drone... no problem.

http://media.photobucket.com/user/sa...es&sort=1&o=63

The Chinese guy in Versaille would be an example of someone taking a specific person's image without their permission (no clue what would be allowed in France), although in China with their lack of privacy people just take pictures of what and who ever they feel like. It was explained that pictures of what and who they saw were just part of modern Chinese culture that has lost much of concept of personal rights and privileges and entitlements we see in Canada There is little or no concept of privacy in China and as our image is taken thousands of times at every business and hundreds more when we go to a place like Niagara Falls etc. I think Canadians will relax and be less paranoid about their picture being taken and just take a "so what" attitude. Actual invasions of privacy by REAL Peeping Toms will continue to be both an issue and illegal of course and should be.

[Fishy Wishy]

Correct, but neither can you, you are creating the impression that he is a "Peeping Tom" and making an assumption of his intent. Since he left when the perverted behaviour started we can make the assumption he wasn't fairly safely (but not absolutely).... or that he was low on battery...... what ever without a statement of his intent it IS speculation... even the sex of the controller.. perhaps SHE started laughing at the size of what he saw and hit recall is why it left then

Others have gone very far out of their way to pervert the word pervert and also made the assumption that they had rights in regards to their privacy and image taken in a public place.

As I understand it only a if you are a specific subject or model do you have rights to their image and just saying they were taking a picture of a boat on a lake gives the photographer full rights to use and distribute, there is even a artist I heard about taking images from others online photo albums to use in their work in galleries. Many peoples faces are now on display or even sold without their knowledge. Just look at Photobucket and their use of an image, many sign their rights away and if others want a framed picture etc. of someone else or in this case their drone... no problem.

http://media.photobucket.com/user/sa...es&sort=1&o=63

The Chinese guy in Versaille would be an example of someone taking a specific person's image without their permission (no clue what would be allowed in France), although in China with their lack of privacy people just take pictures of what and who ever they feel like. It was explained that pictures of what and who they saw were just part of modern Chinese culture that has lost much of concept of personal rights and privileges and entitlements we see in Canada There is little or no concept of privacy in China and as our image is taken thousands of times at every business and hundreds more when we go to a place like Niagara Falls etc. I think Canadians will relax and be less paranoid about their picture being taken and just take a "so what" attitude. Actual invasions of privacy by REAL Peeping Toms will continue to be both an issue and illegal of course and should be.

True we are all making assumptions, and perverting this whole thread, and perverting the actions of the assailant.

At issue for me isn't if the controller was taking long panning shots, or you happen to be in one of their exposures. It is that he/she targeted the OP, getting nosey. In my upbringing that is just rude. Same a eavesdropping on a conversation.

[werner.reiche]

FW - what the person piloting the drone did may be seen to be rude, but that doesn't make them an "assailant". There was no "attack". The OP's reaction to that could get him hauled into court - it is not just rude, it is prohibited by law. The OP just one more rude person trying to outdo other people's rudeness. That he would complain about the rudeness of the drone pilot and then describe his even greater rudeness here is pretty stupid.

I'm not sure why the rude drone pilot draws so much attention when our society has degraded to a valueless one where individuals like the "FHRITP" guy think their behavior is amusing. The drone pilot's behavior pales in comparison. The behavior of the OP here is pretty much as bad as the FHRITP guy.

[jaycee]

I think it depends where you are - if your out in the middle of a lake and a drone hovers over you I don't think you can do anything but if your in your back yard sitting around a swimming pool and a drone comes over and hovers over you I think you can take it down - I know I would - it called - stand your air - like stand your ground -

Man things are getting terrible - you can't find a place to hide be alone anymore =

Right on!
Privacy , to me is my one acre especially my back yard, what I do within the confines of "my property especially my back yard is no ones business" if anyone spies on me while I am on my property , then they will suffer the consequences [drone shot down] because that drone is to close and spying.
If I am out in public, on a lake fishing or in public anywhere else , that is a different matter and I wouldn't be too concerned about a drone flying around. If you are out in public you take your chances of having your picture taken.

[jaycee]

You wouldn't even know I'm there

These birds are out a long way out lake Ontario

That picture you took was most likely taken with a lense that cost in the thousands which I seriously doubt that a drone user would mount on his camera and drone which would cost less than 1/4 the price of your lense.
The normal drone user would be fairly close to be able to keep an eye on his drone and we would know he is there.
The drones we are referring to are not in the same category as what is used by spy agency's and the military.

[mosquito]

That picture you took was most likely taken with a lense that cost in the thousands which I seriously doubt that a drone user would mount on his camera and drone which would cost less than 1/4 the price of your lense.
The normal drone user would be fairly close to be able to keep an eye on his drone and we would know he is there.
The drones we are referring to are not in the same category as what is used by spy agency's and the military.

Not so much anymore, I was having lunch and just looking at some of the medium priced options and many of them can carry the Sony DX-10 with has a 10X zoom.

I found a video here and show it on a Phantom FC40, a $800 drone, so for less than $1000 you can have a drone that will have over a 1/4 mile range, 10X zoom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR8lgXSPBI8

QX10- turn cell phones etc to a 10X camera.
http://www.amazon.ca/Sony-Smartphone.../dp/B00EVIJWXS

IF someone wants to spy on you they can, I have a Lumix camera that can zoom to 60X for less than $400, many $300 video cameras have 25X + zoom, you can add the QX-10 to your smart phone and be almost unnoticeable from the person playing a game, a drone is the expensive way and someone flying it up to you and is just 50 ft away just wants a picture. "Spying" can be done alot easier without a drone or with a drone with a gimble it can be done discretely with a zoom from up high or if you land it and use the zoom somewhere you have a camera platform that is small and quiet. They might be trying to be a jerk too but I think we can safely say it wasn't the case.


P.S.

MNR is using them, (OPP too).
For instance, one recent project with the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources outfitted UAVs with thermal cameras, tuned to infrared light given off by hot objects.
http://news.engineering.utoronto.ca/...drone-experts/

[JBen]

Saddens me to see so little respect from both sides.

Photographers who don't respect others and others who don't respect others peoples property and rights.

I have a drone, and while I personally wouldn't use it in a manner that might seem intrusive or harassing or anything. I'd nail anyone to the wall and to the full extent who thought they were all that and above the law (your "rights" are no greater than my "rights") as some here seem to think they are. And if they wanted to get in my face, Id nail them that way as well if "push came to shove". For all the talk in these forums about ethics, bad mouthing of tresspessers, poachers, thieves who don't respect other peoples property, etc, etc, etc. Always puzzles me why so many are eager to break laws, infringe on others rights etc.



With respect to various laws and rights including Transport Canada's take on these things lots of misinformation in here. And for what it's worth I do see a day (and possible need) when they get cracked down on. Until such a day if they aren't breaking any laws..................................

[sprocketman25]

I heard they have to register with the authorities governing airspace and they for no reason can fly one within 100 ft of a occupied home......... the rules a very strict So I would guess if it was within 100ft of your personal space free game because the operator is knowingly breaking the law