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[jaycee]

There are still men of that type around in this day and age.
A friend of mine born here in Canada but of European origin, still treats his wife that way, to him women are subservient to men.
His son to him is the greatest , but he treats his wife and daughter like dirt.

[yellow dog]

My grandfather would of gone hungry if he treated my grandmother that way. They were married for 70 years before my grandfather passed away at age 92 and my grandmother lived to 100. Both were from the Netherlands and had a very respectful upbringing.

[Oddmott]

My grandfather (on mom's side) was born in 1906, dirt poor to recent Irish immigrants. He was the oldest of 6 brothers and lived to 97.5.

He farmed, he blacksmithed, he did masonry, he laid railways, he worked in lumber camps and then he farmed again.

Through his entire life he treated everyone with kindness and respect. Never speaking ill of anyone, and regularly going out of his way to help others. In his 30s he gave away his entire life savings to help a family in need. In his early 40s he donated his farm house to another family in need, until they could get back on their feet.

He married my grandmother when he was 48, and he treated her the best of all. He doted on her and worked his butt off for her... and he appreciated her for everything she did for him. She was mangled and nearly killed in a car accident shortly after their 3rd kid was born. She never really was able to walk well or work after that, but he never faltered... he just did all his work and most of the "woman's work" too.

That, is a real man.

[skeeter1]

I love guys like this it makes for tons of eligible 40 something divorcees out there looking for a decent man

[Oddmott]

I love guys like this it makes for tons of eligible 40 something divorcees out there looking for a decent man

Lol very true

However, most of them are no longer waiting till their 40s to get out.

[JoePa]

How would you like to be a woman in some of those Muslim countries - you do what the old man says or else - yes both spouses should love and respect each other and treat each other with kindness and concern - but you know something - some times its the opposite - the woman is the boss and calls the shots in the house - when that happens it is terrible - nothing worst than a wimpy husband -

The only time a man needs to take over is when a major decision that will affect the family has to be made - it shouldn't happen often but there are times when the wife and husband can't agree on some particular important matter - then the man should call the shots - that's the way it should be - you don't need to say it or even ever bring it up but when the chips are down the man is the head of the family - even the bible says that - it just natural - nothing worst then a woman with a big mouth -

[yellow dog]

LOL JoepA EXPECT SOME BACKLASH !

[Sharon]

I had a friend whose father was very domineering in their house. Beat the kids and demanded respect. That friend has since turned out to be similar and treats his wife and kids in like fashion.
The good old days and the good old ways ain't always that great

That's for sure. My dad was a violent alcoholic (6 years overseas in WW2 did that damage), who beat Mom and sexually abused the girls. Thanks be to God, my sister and I have done great , broke the chain of marrying a similar husband, and have had happy lives with minimal baggage.
One brother has done great and raised a wonderful family; one brother turned out just like Dad; 2 other brothers died before 17 .

No women's shelters in those days, police didn't care about women getting beaten. Mom died at 54 and I was glad she was released from her hell on earth. One day we'll reunite.

[C.A. in TO]

How would you like to be a woman in some of those Muslim countries - you do what the old man says or else - yes both spouses should love and respect each other and treat each other with kindness and concern - but you know something - some times its the opposite - the woman is the boss and calls the shots in the house - when that happens it is terrible - nothing worst than a wimpy husband -

The only time a man needs to take over is when a major decision that will affect the family has to be made - it shouldn't happen often but there are times when the wife and husband can't agree on some particular important matter - then the man should call the shots - that's the way it should be - you don't need to say it or even ever bring it up but when the chips are down the man is the head of the family - even the bible says that - it just natural - nothing worst then a woman with a big mouth -

I'm not even going to touch the Muslim comment. It's obvious you know nothing about being Muslim. Women run the home.
Thank heavens my grandmother took charge of her house. Especially when the chips were down -- and usually a result of my grandfather's idiotic, alcohol hazed decisions. Sometimes a strong woman is the only reason the family survives.
Joe, you really need to go visit your dad. You are a dinosaur ... Surviving only because you reside in rural PA.

[standup]

I had a friend whose father was very domineering in their house. Beat the kids and demanded respect. That friend has since turned out to be similar and treats his wife and kids in like fashion.
The good old days and the good old ways ain't always that great

I'll Amen that