Return of Long Gun Registry

[standup]

In the end it will be a quebec registry and a few scattered sheeple that cant think for themselves. There will be few if any westerners who will register again.

Oh ya, or. Maybe we'll even storm the hill along with all the other brazen defiance we were going to do NOT the last time. Trust me, we'll all register up like good little lefties

[Gilroy]

Well yes I do! We're not talking about what you, I or 100,000 other gun owners would do. We're talking about the fact there is no law that compels a person to have the information recorded. So if a gun owner did not have that info, he/she would still be required to report it if there was a theft/loss and the officer taking the report would simply have to check the boxes N/A. The victim would be fully compliant since he/she has done their duty to report it. End of story.

Well not quite the end of the story because without the required information you actually have not made a proper report.

Just to give you an example I just pulled this off the Toronto Police Website Citizens Self Reporting Section.

The Toronto Police Service will ONLY accept reports over the phone, for LOST items that:

• have an externally visible SERIAL NUMBER AND are worth MORE THAN $500,
• are dangerous to the public (IE: Pharmaceutical Samples),
• could be used to commit criminal offences (IE: Firearms) or,
• it is determined that there is a public interest in recording the details of the LOST item.

If you do not have the details of your lost/stolen guns,including make model and serial numbers you will NOT get a report done as you have provided no information for a proper report and of course zero chance of ever seeing your guns again as their are no identifiers.IMHO

[rick_iles]

Well not quite the end of the story because without the required information you actually have not made a proper report.

Just to give you an example I just pulled this off the Toronto Police Website Citizens Self Reporting Section.

The Toronto Police Service will ONLY accept reports over the phone, for LOST items that:

• have an externally visible SERIAL NUMBER AND are worth MORE THAN $500,
• are dangerous to the public (IE: Pharmaceutical Samples),
• could be used to commit criminal offences (IE: Firearms) or,
• it is determined that there is a public interest in recording the details of the LOST item.

If you do not have the details of your lost/stolen guns,including make model and serial numbers you will NOT get a report done as you have provided no information for a proper report and of course zero chance of ever seeing your guns again as their are no identifiers.IMHO

Maybe that's the way TPS conducts business, but reports are done routinely with a lot less information here in the real world ! I do agree that your chances of recovering property, not just firearms, is much greater if you provide that identifying information.

[Bushmoose]

If you do not have the details of your lost/stolen guns,including make model and serial numbers you will NOT get a report done as you have provided no information for a proper report and of course zero chance of ever seeing your guns again as their are no identifiers.IMHO

Gilroy, if someone had a gun stolen and reported it as such, without the identifying info, do you really think the police would just say, "sorry, no info= no report"? They'd be all over it like a fly on crap! The old retired guys would come out of the woodwork trying to get a piece of the action! There'd be phone calls, there'd be sirens! I can just see you now racing down the 400 from your hunt camp, in your skivvies, grey hair flapping in the wind and your dogs head stuck out the passenger window with his jowls flapping in the wind! You can't fool me Gilroy! You would defintely take that report. You might forget where you put it afterwards, but you'd take it!

[rick_iles]

Oh ya, or. Maybe we'll even storm the hill along with all the other brazen defiance we were going to do NOT the last time. Trust me, we'll all register up like good little lefties

And why wouldn't you register ? I certainly won't run the risk of losing my guns because I didn't register them. I tend to use my guns. Getting caught out hunting or shooting with an unregistered gun is not something I'm willing to take a chance on. Most firearms owners will hold their nose and register. If you want to hide your guns and never use them, have at 'er, don't register !

[Gilroy]

Gilroy, if someone had a gun stolen and reported it as such, without the identifying info, do you really think the police would just say, "sorry, no info= no report"? They'd be all over it like a fly on crap! The old retired guys would come out of the woodwork trying to get a piece of the action! There'd be phone calls, there'd be sirens! I can just see you now racing down the 400 from your hunt camp, in your skivvies, grey hair flapping in the wind and your dogs head stuck out the passenger window with his jowls flapping in the wind! You can't fool me Gilroy! You would defintely take that report. You might forget where you put it afterwards, but you'd take it!

LOL even my dog loved that description.In my day on the job if every box was not marked you didnt get it pass the desk Sgt and he/she would not sign off on that report.

I suppose the readers could call their local detachment/division and ask the simple question "what information would I need to get a police report completed for a lost/stolen firearm and await the reply.If they tell you that your name,address and phone number and the make of the firearm would be OK,your good to go.But really it would only be a piece of paper gathering dust,not useful to the police or to you.

[trimmer21]

You guys can flap your gums all you want. I doubt we'll see anything to do with firearms enacted unless and until Mr.Mulcair is well assured that he could win a second term with much more gun control and confiscation of most semi-auto and "black" "sniper" rifles as a full blown agenda.

[welsh]

I can't even figure out what people are arguing about now.

You've got a legal obligation to record serial numbers so you can make a proper report of theft? The police won't take a report unless you have proper details? Without the registry you can't cross the street without looking both ways?

[greatwhite]

I*'m curious how stolen guns were returned before the registry, I know of some when I was a teenager. Gilroy could you please explain in detail how this was done without the registry??

[blargon]

I'll take my chances.