Return of Long Gun Registry

[MikePal]

Resurrecting it would be a bit of a risk.

All it would take is a cataylst; something that would initiate a knee jerk response by the NDP/Lib coalition to answer the pressure of social media. The risk assessment would be in the numbers and Gun owners are actually pretty small.

What will save us is the strongly held Conservative Senate. Most members are the same ones that got rid of the old registry so they would not allow it back.

[greatwhite]

For starters Gilroy that Log was never updated if a gun was sold by the owner. So technically it was out of date the moment you walked out the store. Second of all almost all mass murders have occurred during the time period of the gun registry. But you already knew that didn't you.

Well my gun buying experience began some time after my initial policing. But I can tell you that when I bought my first shotgun at Holman and Hickey on Dawes Road, the gun store owner had to record all the details of the firearm in a ledger which was checked on a regular basis by OPP officers and Toronto officers.This would be one of the starting points for any investigation into a lost or stolen gun.Owners of guns back then also appeared to be pretty good about recording details but many were NOT.

After society suffered a number of murders involving firearms and Coroners inquest throughout the Country started making recommendations to tighten gun control.Some of the incidents involved long guns stolen where the owners did not report the theft but it came to light in the investigation.To force the owners to comply with some pretty common sense precautions we got the long gun registry.

[welsh]

The libs/ndp already have the left wing vote guaranteed, but they needed a lot of 2011 cons to switch. Bringing back the registry may cost them those votes. Not bringing it back will not likely cost them left wing votes.

This is the best answer, I think.

Before abolishing the registry, the CPC carefully laid the groundwork with a campaign designed to convince Canadians that it was a waste of money. The number of voters who actually wanted it abolished was relatively small; the CPC therefore had to convince Canadians that abolishing it was, at the very least, not a bad idea. They changed it from a gun control issue into a money issue.

That's why neither the Liberals nor the NDP is campaigning on the gun registry. They stand to lose their soft support if they promise to spend money restoring something that had just been abolished as a waste of money.

[Gilroy]

"The birth of the Canadian long-gun registry began with the federal Progressive Conservative Party under Prime MinisterKim Campbell. It was the child of former Conservative SenatorNathan Nurgitz, who wrote then Prime Minister Campbell requesting all guns be registered".


We must bear in mind where the seeds of this were planted and by whom, in case you guys missed the first line.

[Gilroy]

Well, that's a novel interpretation: that if my firearm is stolen and I do not have a record of the serial number, then because I cannot make a "proper report" by filling in all the blanks on a form, I have failed to make any report at all, and therefore have committed the criminal offence of failing to report the theft?

Sorry. That's incorrect.

Well I hope you have the common sense to appreciate what a report is and what it should contain.If your gun is stolen or lost would it not be sensible to have as much information for the police,ie in case you wanted it back,even if you did not give a hoot about what the firearm might be used for while missing.

There is a very good possibility that if you call a police detachment today and have no details of your guns,the police will not take the report period.You will be told to find out the details on the firearms,thank that most of us have still kept copies of our registrations.

[trimmer21]

Well I hope you have the common sense to appreciate what a report is and what it should contain.If your gun is stolen or lost would it not be sensible to have as much information for the police,ie in case you wanted it back,even if you did not give a hoot about what the firearm might be used for while missing.

There is a very good possibility that if you call a police detachment today and have no details of your guns,the police will not take the report period.You will be told to find out the details on the firearms,thank that most of us have still kept copies of our registrations.

That depends on a couple of things like if the report is for a B&E where the guns were taken along with other items or if you dropped a shotgun overboard. Most insurance policies have,at least,a $1K deductible,so,it would be foolish to report it unless you lost a gun worth double or triple that or more. Most hunter's shotguns are around the $500 to $900 mark. Filing a claim would be a waste of time and would only serve to raise your premiums.

If you feel better having your old registration cards on hand,go nuts. I still have mine. They're framed and hanging in the den as a constant reminder to NEVER vote for any party or person supporting gun control stupidity and it makes ZERO difference as far as reporting goes. There's no offense there,whatsoever.

[welsh]

There is a very good possibility that if you call a police detachment today and have no details of your guns,the police will not take the report period.You will be told to find out the details on the firearms,thank that most of us have still kept copies of our registrations.

I suppose if a woman is raped, but can't describe her attacker, the police will not take the report?

Pure BS.

And to suggest that I could be held criminally responsible for failing to make a report, if I called the police but they refused to take my report? Deeper BS.

The police may have little prospect of recovering my gun if I don't know the serial number, but this does not mean that I can't report it stolen without knowing the serial number. You're just trolling at this point.

[terrym]

Well, today's polling aggregate (308.com) actually has Trudough in the lead. So this is going to be a zoo right to the end. The fact that the left isn't running the registry flag up the pole during a tight campaign is not surprising. The left rarely act on what they campaign on. I have no doubt an NDP or Lib win will trigger draconian gun regulations. We as gun owners aren't a big enough pool of seats compared to those who hate Gina or couldn't care less. We are expendable.

[rick_iles]

It's not just serial numbers that are added as descriptors in a report. Every gun I own has accidental characteristics that I can add in the remarks section of a report. I'd hazard a guess that the majority of firearms owners can describe similar characteristics. I've seen firearms returned with no serial numbers on a report. To say that the police won't take a report because you don't have the numbers, or that I'm somehow liable for criminal charges because I don't have numbers when making a report, is just plain BS !

[standup]

On a side note. I watched a trial one time for "Illegal storage" The crown's star witness was the committer of the B&E. He said and I quote. "The guns were readily available". Tell me something. What crook is going to say he had to cut a 1/4" aircraft cable off your guns and shred your house to get em? Not an ef'n one yet it's his word that cost an ole boy his PAL ,a prohib and $2000 fine. THAT'S BULL !!!