PAL renewal retarded...

[MarkB]

I definitely wrote a test with my dad and uncle. It would have been late 80's or early 90's for sure. I still have my card, filed away (haven't checked it). We had to write the test to get our FAC. We went to an instructor who taught us the requirements, and then wrote a test. I was young at the time in my teenage years. We apparently needed the FAC to be able to possess firearms. Before that you just had to be over 18 years old to be able to buy a gun. But then they changed it to say you needed an FAC to be able to even hold a gun. That's what I remember, it was about 25 years ago.

I called in about renewal probably 5 years ago. The lady on the phone said she had a record of my course on file.
Back then she said I could just apply and get the new certificate (not sure if it was the POL at the time??).

I'm just checking whether anything has changed, and if I could still get my PAL with the course I took for my FAC.
What does RPAL stand for? Does the R stand for restricted?

[Simple]

A course was required in the late 80s early - mid 90s, you could challenge the exam.

Rick Iles, if he took the course and passed the exam, then the CFC has a record of it, and yes it's indeed valid. As a matter of fact, if it was the one for the FAC, then he actually can apply for his RPAL, as pistols were covered in the course as well.

Bluebulldog is correct. My brother was in the same situation last year. He provided the necessary proof that he took the course in the mid 90's. He now has his RPAL.

[greatwhite]

If there was a course in the 80's and 90's it was province specific and must have been a Hunter's safety course. There was no course in NB, NS or PEI for the FAC. Infact back then you could apply 3 months before your 16th birthday I received mine in 1985 Oct 11 and Dad took me to Canadian Tire to purchase my 20 gauge.

[greatwhite]

The FAC disappeared in 1995 and the PAL was released.

Bluebulldog is correct. My brother was in the same situation last year. He provided the necessary proof that he took the course in the mid 90's. He now has his RPAL.

[Bluebulldog]

If there was a course in the 80's and 90's it was province specific and must have been a Hunter's safety course. There was no course in NB, NS or PEI for the FAC. Infact back then you could apply 3 months before your 16th birthday I received mine in 1985 Oct 11 and Dad took me to Canadian Tire to purchase my 20 gauge.

Federal actually.

• In 1991, Bill C-17 was introduced, coming into force between 1992 and 1994. It required FAC applicants to pass a safety course in addition to a thorough background check, and to wait a minimum of 28 days after applying before an FAC could be issued. It also created new Criminal Code offences, new definitions for prohibited and restricted weapons, and new regulations for firearms dealers. It increased penalties for firearm-related crimes. It clearly outlined regulations for firearms storage, handling and transportation.^[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Canada

[MarkB]

It was definitely not a hunter course. I already had my hunting license, which required me to go through 6 weeks of training at a club, plus a written and practical test. I got that at the age of 16. My dad purchased my first shot gun that year, would have been 88 or 89, without a FAC. I was able to possess the gun, but not purchase it. But then they changed the law and said you needed an FAC to possess a firearm. In the pursuit of the FAC, we were also required to do a special gun safety course. I remember it containing all the new rules about safe gun storage, ammunition storage, etc. That's the same year people stopped storing their shotguns in their closets, and had to buy lockable safes that met the federal requirement, ammunition stored and locked separately from firearms, etc.

The ministry has a record of my test, that I've already confirmed. If you did the course, they should have a record of it. I didn't have to show them anything other than provide my name and birth date.

[greatwhite]

So came into force between 1992 and 1994. Which explains why most people would not have done a course it still didn't exist in NB in 1991 - 1993. The FAC died and became the PAL in 1995. I forgot to renew my FAC before it expired in 1995 and had to take the course if I had renewed it on time I would not have had to do the course.

Federal actually.

• In 1991, Bill C-17 was introduced, coming into force between 1992 and 1994. It required FAC applicants to pass a safety course in addition to a thorough background check, and to wait a minimum of 28 days after applying before an FAC could be issued. It also created new Criminal Code offences, new definitions for prohibited and restricted weapons, and new regulations for firearms dealers. It increased penalties for firearm-related crimes. It clearly outlined regulations for firearms storage, handling and transportation.^[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Canada

[greatwhite]

In 1985 you could get the FAC and purchase a firearm. I applied 3 months before my birthday and received the FAC in the mail on Friday Oct 11 1985 My Birthday. Dad took me to Canadian Tire and I purchased a Bakhil 20 gauge single shot.

It was definitely not a hunter course. I already had my hunting license, which required me to go through 6 weeks of training at a club, plus a written and practical test. I got that at the age of 16. My dad purchased my first shot gun that year, would have been 88 or 89, without a FAC. I was able to possess the gun, but not purchase it. But then they changed the law and said you needed an FAC to possess a firearm. In the pursuit of the FAC, we were also required to do a special gun safety course. I remember it containing all the new rules about safe gun storage, ammunition storage, etc. That's the same year people stopped storing their shotguns in their closets, and had to buy lockable safes that met the federal requirement, ammunition stored and locked separately from firearms, etc.

The ministry has a record of my test, that I've already confirmed. If you did the course, they should have a record of it. I didn't have to show them anything other than provide my name and birth date.

[Bluebulldog]

In 1985 you could get the FAC and purchase a firearm. I applied 3 months before my birthday and received the FAC in the mail on Friday Oct 11 1985 My Birthday. Dad took me to Canadian Tire and I purchased a Bakhil 20 gauge single shot.

That was also back when FACs were just done at the local police station. Ah...the good old days...LOL.

[Splaker]

We moved in the past 7 months and this is why I didn't get the renewal notice... it's something you'd forget to update (address for PAL)... we all live very busy lives, I'm sure, and some days I can't remember what I ate for breakfast!

In all the years I've hunted no one ever asked me for a card... it's buried somewhere where I keep my tags. I haven't bought amp in over 2 years and a gun in 4..

ANyhow will try to call them when I get chance


HAve to go plan the revolution now