federal gun issues

[Bushmoose]

The whole program was simply meant to show the sub culture of illegal guns on the street. At no time did it portrait the 100's of thousands of hunters across Canada who legally use their firearms in pursuit of their passion. There were no interviews of hunters? No filming of a family sitting down to dinner enjoying the turkey that was harvested? Instead, they went out of their way to show the illegal use of guns and focused on the porous border border issue of gun smuggling.
Biased to the nth degree!

[welsh]

I would say this doc didn't show hunters not out of bias but because by and large hunters represent a kind of middle ground. The aim seems to have been to contrast what's happening in our most troubled communities with our newly confident gun lobby, which argues for more and more deregulation, and to illustrate the gulf that exists between the two -- a gulf so wide that we see Tony Bernardo saying he doesn't understand those horrible little monsters, and then we see a horrible little monster, Alex.

One thing they might have explored is the way gun owners who think our system works just fine as is are derided as fudds by the folks who drive the gun lobby: you're either on board with the agenda John Evers lays out in the closing scene, or you're the enemy. So the entire middle ground of Canadian gun owners is invisible.

[topher]

The whole program was simply meant to show the sub culture of illegal guns on the street. At no time did it portrait the 100's of thousands of hunters across Canada who legally use their firearms in pursuit of their passion. There were no interviews of hunters? No filming of a family sitting down to dinner enjoying the turkey that was harvested? Instead, they went out of their way to show the illegal use of guns and focused on the porous border border issue of gun smuggling.
Biased to the nth degree!

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It was a well executed documentary...with a clear anti-gun undertone.


Here's a commentary posted on the Up In Arms Facebook page.


http://jamesbawden.blogspot.ca/2015/...cumentary.html

Myself and a few other gunnie friends found it well put together and fairly unbiased. They showed the target shooting side okay.. they also showed the crime side well.. I didn't get the hint at anytime watching this that they pro gun control.. or any gun Control.. I was waiting for the "guns are evil" portion to come Into play.

They used the gang members well.. I got from them the feeling that they were saying they could get a gun illegal as easy as buying Crack... (actually the girl said that) the smuggler interviewed mentioned how canada is a country that people LOVE smuggling guns Into the country.. since in a us street the get $100-$300 a gun canada the same gun is $1500-$3k... Wyatt was his typical douche.. even Blair didn't come across as "anti gun" saying that we have to address the social and economic issues..

Also found some of the demonstrations on gun laws was okay.. but could of been better..
Eg. When the cssa regional director (sorry can't remember his name) was in west Virginia doing three gun.. he was removing the magazine block on his benneli shotgun.. he was talking about how sporting events in Canada is at a disadvantage due to magazine laws.. (the documentary did not delve into it)

Also the documentary said "only way for criminals to obtain a gun, is to steal one. Or buy an illegal from the street" (this was followed by the surveillance video of a car smashing into al Simmons gun shop.. then they talked about straw buying. (New method first seen in 2013) where a licensed person buys a restricted and grinds off serial sells it on the street.. however this was proven to be a bad idea as the guy was caught in a matter of days...

Pleas explain to me the anti gun feeling you got? I was looking for it.. but didn't find it.. neither did I find pro gun..

Edit.
My takeaway feelings from the video were more "how do we stop the criminal trade of guns" not so much "are guns worth having in canada"

Chris

[kickingfrog]

You still have tapes?

Figure of speech... or type in this case.

[73hunter]

Also re-airing on Sunday at 11pm

[poltrojan]

in my opinion, its decent piece of journalism like it should be (its a start). focusing on unbiased but reporting it from both perspective. i like how it addressed the socioeconomical status of poverty trying to acquire the guns illegally, spoke of certain individuals of mass shootings and their prohibition of possession and still manage to acquire it illegally. overall they did mention that the legal owners are the ones that pay the price for illegal activities which they don't commit.

couple of new things to me was 'straw purchase' and Bill Blair wasn't anti-gun, but spoke more of socioeconomical status of communities where safety is a concern. however it does out the hunters part.

[awndray]

Pleas explain to me the anti gun feeling you got? I was looking for it.. but didn't find it.. neither did I find pro gun..

I thought it was pretty obvious. The ominous music for one...

[awndray]

Here's the follow up with Steve Paikin, Nadine Pequeneza (producer of Up In Arms) and A.J. Somerset (author of Arms: The Culture and Credo of the Gun).

http://tvo.org/video/programs/the-ag...kin/up-in-arms