Implications of who you vote for and what the media won't talk about.

[trimmer21]

Good job,mosquito. That's a tremendous amount of work. Now,it should be e-mailed to every Letter to the Editor of every newspaper and magazine in Canada. I'm willing to bet,though,that despite your efforts and spoon feeding this to them,that not one of them will print it.

[mosquito]

Good job,mosquito. That's a tremendous amount of work. Now,it should be e-mailed to every Letter to the Editor of every newspaper and magazine in Canada. I'm willing to bet,though,that despite your efforts and spoon feeding this to them,that not one of them will print it.

Feel free to cut and paste and send it to who ever you want, I stole links from alot of people on here and elsewhere too and just kept it in draft until tonight.

I am just wondering how many family and friends on facebook will be unfriending me... I sent my cousin a message on facebook showing how what he was posting from "Occupy" was wrong and a link to the right info on the Globe and Mail about Harpers pension, he said I had my head up Ezra's a** and unfriended me. Liberal's really hate facts.

[DGearyFTE]

mosquito! Best post I have seen. Thanks for the work. I will vote Liberal or NDP right after the peel my 30-06 from my cold dead hands!

[bushman]

mosquito! Best post I have seen. Thanks for the work. I will vote Liberal or NDP right after the peel my 30-06 from my cold dead hands!

With you a 100% on this one. And hopefully more and more people get a chance to see and read your compilation mosquito, and make an informed choice on FACTS, not biased media party b--length. Go Stevie, go.

[mosquito]

mosquito! Best post I have seen. Thanks for the work. I will vote Liberal or NDP right after the peel my 30-06 from my cold dead hands!

Just a bit of work now and then as new stuff was added, longest effort was probably the 10 minutes editing and removing duplicates and numbering it just before sending and posting here.

Here is an incentive to get you talking to others about what a change in gov't could mean for Canadian gun owners.... Australia.... nice browning shotugn in the middle, some rifles to the right (one looks like SKS), alot of nice looking pumps shotguns ...
http://truthuncensored.net/wp-conten...x4-700x933.jpg

With you a 100% on this one. And hopefully more and more people get a chance to see and read your compilation mosquito, and make an informed choice on FACTS, not biased media party b--length. Go Stevie, go.

Well like I said feel free to take parts or as a whole and edit or just mail to as many as you want. It is from alot of sources and mostly cut and past from different articles and feel fee to use it. Edit and take credit, send it to papers, post it on forums what ever you think will get some to open their eyes, I am much more concerned about another Trudeau ruining the country and Furieux Tom Mulcair and his policies don't seem any better and maybe worse.


Easy links right to it.
http://www.oodmag.com/community/show...l=1#post928061
2nd half
http://www.oodmag.com/community/show...l=1#post928063

[MarkB]

Nice job laying everything out.

I believe Harper generally has the right idea about the economics of the country.

There's a few things that I perceive are issues though, it would be good to get some supportive evidence to put my mind at ease on these issues:

- Harper has been labelled by some a "bully", who pushes his agenda through. That would cause concern in regards to democracy, and whether my representative in parlaiment is really voting for me, or for Harper.
- The whole revoke citizenship thing - does that only apply to people who carry dual citizenship, and are not Canadian by birth right? I don't see how you could revoke citizenship of a person who was born in Canada. I think you can revoke their rights as a citizen, as they do with prisoners, but not their citizenship (this would make them a non-citizen in any country).
- Harper has been viewed to reduce help to those in need. Look at applications by refugees. People need help, and one of our values has always been that. Has that changed?
- Also look at the guy recently freed from Egypt. Canadian government apparently did very little to help. If some government around the world takes advantage of us, are we not going to get support from the Canadian government???
- Bill C-51. That seems to have gone against our rights. I understand the purpose, but this power in the hands of the wrong people (corrupt government officials, corrupt police, etc) can be used to extort people, victimize the innocent, etc. Why was this pushed through parliament so quickly? Isn't there better wording that would respect people's rights to an opinion, rights to privacy, etc.?

[mosquito]

Nice job laying everything out.

I believe Harper generally has the right idea about the economics of the country.

There's a few things that I perceive are issues though, it would be good to get some supportive evidence to put my mind at ease on these issues:

1) - Harper has been labelled by some a "bully", who pushes his agenda through. That would cause concern in regards to democracy, and whether my representative in parlaiment is really voting for me, or for Harper.

2) - The whole revoke citizenship thing - does that only apply to people who carry dual citizenship, and are not Canadian by birth right? I don't see how you could revoke citizenship of a person who was born in Canada. I think you can revoke their rights as a citizen, as they do with prisoners, but not their citizenship (this would make them a non-citizen in any country).

3) - Harper has been viewed to reduce help to those in need. Look at applications by refugees. People need help, and one of our values has always been that. Has that changed?

4) - Also look at the guy recently freed from Egypt. Canadian government apparently did very little to help. If some government around the world takes advantage of us, are we not going to get support from the Canadian government???

5) - Bill C-51. That seems to have gone against our rights. I understand the purpose, but this power in the hands of the wrong people (corrupt government officials, corrupt police, etc) can be used to extort people, victimize the innocent, etc. Why was this pushed through parliament so quickly? Isn't there better wording that would respect people's rights to an opinion, rights to privacy, etc.?

1) If you don't have a strong leader who puts the reigns to them think about the crowd the Conservatives have, centre to libertarian, as for being a bully just compare him to Justin for example. Justin has said you must agree with manmade global warming and be pro-abortion to even be a candidate and there are several examples above where candidates were blackballed, dates changed etc. and the Liberals are being sued, even though Justin promised several times open nominations. No there needs to be discipline within every organization or it is just a mob... sort of like the NDP, no real leader, rule by mob. There are alot of idiots out the that like calling it bullying, probably self employed writers mostly because if you just do your own thing and ignore the leadership at work you deserve you butt fired.


2) There are lots of protections in the the law and one of them is that a person cannot be stateless and must be a dual citizen.

3) The Canadian gov't has been doing alot including dropping bombs on the CAUSE of the problem, something the other two parties won't. The NDP and Liberals only care about those that can get out of the country and might vote for them if they get here, the millions unable to escape tough luck.
http://www.international.gc.ca/development-developpement/humanitarian_response-situations_crises/syria-syrie.aspx?lang=eng
According to the United Nations, 12.2 million people inside Syria need urgent help, including 7.6 million who are internally displaced. It is estimated that well over 250,000 people have died in the conflict, with hundreds of thousands more wounded. More than 4 million Syrians have sought refuge in the neighbouring countries of Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Turkey.Canada has given generously to the various international efforts to support the Syrian people, including those living as refugees in neighboring countries. To date, Canada has committed over $800 million in humanitarian, development and security assistance in response to the Syria crisis.

Refugee resettlement


Canada has agreed to resettle 11,300 Syrian refugees by the end of 2017 and 23,000 Iraqi refugees by the end of 2015. Canada has also committed to resettle 5,000 refugees who are now in Turkey by 2018. As of September 1, 2015, more than 3,500 refugees from Syria and the region have been admitted to Canada. For more information on how Canada is helping Syrian refugees and how to sponsor a refugee, see Syrian Refugees.

Humanitarian assistance


Since January 2012, Canada has committed $503.5 million in international humanitarian assistance funding in response to the Syria crisis. This amount includes Prime Minister Harper’s May 2, 2015, announcement of $100 million and $50 million announced by Minister Paradis on January 7, 2015, for conflict-affected people in Syria and neighbouring countries

4) He was a charged criminal and it was brought up several times but let's put it the other way, the guy that just lost his citizenship in Canada that was in the Toronto 18, do you think Jordan should decide if he is persecuted and charged? The best solution was to put pressure and observe the proceedings of the trial it seemed to me, he wasn't being tortured or facing a death sentence and there was clearly the issue of what if the gov't was correct.

5) The bill was out for months, the Liberals agreed to it, there were revisions...not a rush job it seems to even though I can see some misuse. C-51 If we assume that Canada will remain a democracy that likes freedoms then the issues about C-51 seem tiny as compared to Justin talking about changes to the CSE. Which is worse, a gov't official having the ability to take down something advocating violence on a webpage (or any of the other items in there) or an organization that could spy on all your internet and access your e-mail, posts on web pages, the pages you go to if they were given approval. Imagine how easy it would be to monitor all RPAL owners or even PAL owners. Then the difference becomes someone advocating trying to do a Guy Fawkes on Ottawa and someone saying Justin is an idiot and need a good swift kick in the butt... both are threats (one in reality, one with no intention of actually doing) in that wonderful legal limbo reality and if a gov't with the power to monitor everything suddenly has the power to do it and a leader like Justin..... that should p. you o. and scare you some!

http://www.therebel.media/trudeau_co...liberals_would
https://bcblue.wordpress.com/2015/10...rty-go-silent/

A cute picture of Justin as a Child... and remember which PM declared imposed the War Measures act and essentially decalred martial law in Canada.....
http://ambassadors.net/archives/imag...eau-castro.jpg
As a reminder "Over 400 people were selected and arrested, most without charge "... does sound like Cuba or China..restricted access to the internet, arrests without charge....

[trimmer21]

Nice job laying everything out.

I believe Harper generally has the right idea about the economics of the country.

There's a few things that I perceive are issues though, it would be good to get some supportive evidence to put my mind at ease on these issues:

- Harper has been labelled by some a "bully", who pushes his agenda through. That would cause concern in regards to democracy, and whether my representative in parlaiment is really voting for me, or for Harper.
- The whole revoke citizenship thing - does that only apply to people who carry dual citizenship, and are not Canadian by birth right? I don't see how you could revoke citizenship of a person who was born in Canada. I think you can revoke their rights as a citizen, as they do with prisoners, but not their citizenship (this would make them a non-citizen in any country).
- Harper has been viewed to reduce help to those in need. Look at applications by refugees. People need help, and one of our values has always been that. Has that changed?
- Also look at the guy recently freed from Egypt. Canadian government apparently did very little to help. If some government around the world takes advantage of us, are we not going to get support from the Canadian government???
- Bill C-51. That seems to have gone against our rights. I understand the purpose, but this power in the hands of the wrong people (corrupt government officials, corrupt police, etc) can be used to extort people, victimize the innocent, etc. Why was this pushed through parliament so quickly? Isn't there better wording that would respect people's rights to an opinion, rights to privacy, etc.?

I'll take a stab at answering your questions as best I can. First,about the "bully" thing,I call it strong leadership. The great downfall of governments is when individuals try to hijack party policy. There's no room for "crusaders" or miscreants. Every party in government has a a party "whip". It's his/her job to keep the minions "toeing the party line",meaning the ruling party's official agenda and policy. A classic example of this was during the gun control vote where the NDP pulled their dissenting MP's into line,despite tremendous pressure and very clear directives from their constituents. This illustrates why it's important to vote for a party
riding candidate,even if you personally dislike him/her if their party agenda is in line with your personal expectations.

The citizenship revocation applies to people with dual citizenship,especially,those who took out citizenship as an infiltration tactic to establish a terrorist base within the country. Personally,I don't think we should deport them. I'd march them out to the gallows and hang them like common scum,in public and on television within 20 minutes of conviction.

Socialists love to find ways to advance their agenda always at the expense of working people through taxes that we all pay. If you want to find out exactly where they stand,the next time you hear one of them say their favorite union mantra of "Make the rich pay",ask them to define "rich". You'll quickly find that they've set the bar exceedingly high to make damn sure nobody can include them. Throwing billions upon billions of dollars,for a perfect example,at First Nations,hasn't helped their situation in the least,in fact,fueling corruption and exploitation by a distinct criminal element. The best way to help those in need is by giving people a hand UP,as opposed to a hand OUT which only serves to make people into second-class citizens.

Mohammed Fahmy can complain all he wants,but,our government did all they could,legally, to assist in his representation and subsequent release. Canadians need to understand that if they get into trouble in a foreign country,they're literally at the mercy of the justice system in that place at the time. There's no way any foreign country can interfere with the sovereignty of another nation. To do so can be considered an act of war.

Bill C-51 (without getting into a long,drawn-out,nitpicky,useless discussion with the Liberals on this forum) has many systems of "checks and balances" built in to stop political abuse. It's quite apparent that some civil liberties needed to be slightly modified to enable law enforcement use of investigative techniques to combat terrorism in Canada and allied countries abroad. Nothing is ever done in a vacuum or dark hole. There is always public accountability and oversight at every level. Liberals would have us believe that this legislation completely destroys civil liberties,even though they voted with the Conservatives in the last session of Parliament. Typically,both The Libs and NDP are trying to suck and blow at the same time.

[mosquito]

Implications, .... but are people thinking?????

Everything I look at talks about what will happen with a Liberal or NDP gov't, higher taxes, more debt, more corruption (already seen Gagnier and Constituency offices)... but someone pointed out an implication I hadn't thought very deep about.

Election 2015: Stakes High For Street Youth

http://johncassells.com/2015/10/18/election-2015-stakes-high-for-street-youth/
Conservative MP’s unanimously supported the legislation, unlike NDP, Liberals and Greens, whose leaders continue to oppose it. Polls indicate a win for the Liberals is within reach. If Trudeau takes charge, I expect we’ll loose our new prostitution laws. And because the Liberals continue to ignore the abundance of relevant evidence, it might very well signal a return to an approach that fosters human trafficking and other forms of sex trade violence.
There are good reasons to vote for or against any of the major parties, and I can’t possibly know the right choice for you. But know that, on this issue, the stakes are high and the potential toll would be measured in lives destroyed

[mosquito]

I don't want to start a new thread about how lousy our legal systems sentencing and jail time is so I mentioned the sleaze ball Benjamin Levin here so it seems like a good place.

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http://www.torontosun.com/2017/10/07...-out-on-parole
, Levin was granted day parole to a community-based residential facility in Aug. 2016 and full parole on Jan. 10 this year, some 18 months after being sentenced to a three-year prison term.


He sound have atleast got the full sentence ... I don't think it is Liberal influencing on Wynnes buddy, just once again we see the our legal system is ******.