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Thread: Return of Long Gun Registry

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    Quote Originally Posted by upnorth View Post
    The facts don't matter. They just spin it however they want.
    When it comes to gun control, the facts have never mattered. Emotion dictates the agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrym View Post
    JT will pass the burden and political risk onto Wynne. She will see it as a "revenue tool" and will likely introduce some kind of licensing/ tax system. If you make it expensive enough many will give it up which is the real intent.
    I fear you may be onto something here terry!! Maybe nothing will happen re gun control, but I have serious reservations that something will be coming down the pipe in the not too distant future.

    Keep eps our fingers crossed and hope for the best. That's all we can do for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl Marques View Post
    I agree, sort of. I guess what makes me nervous is the promise to repeal C-42 and the idea of "doing a lot around classification". Reclassification can be so much worse that another registry. Welsh, you weigh in on nearly all of these types of posts and you seem to be very well informed. Do you think that nothing will change? I really hope you're right, but I have serious doubts.
    Well, things are going to change because they're going to do just what they promised. Fortunately, most of those changes are small but some are not really well defined so we don't know how big they might be. Just how will handgun RPAL background checks be "enhanced," for example? We don't know what that means yet.

    Not repealing Bill C-42, btw: just rolling back the ATT to the way things were before, and putting classification back in RCMP hands. The rest of C-42 will stand, it seems.

    Given that classification passes back to the RCMP, the Liberals would need to change the definitions of the classes to force any classification changes. That change will be bad for Swiss Arms owners (likely), but leaving it in the hands of a Liberal cabinet minister would arguably be worse....
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    I foresee that the next 'gun violence' massacre in Canada will force the governing politicians to boiler plate the Australian model and modify our present Firearm legislation to add further restrictions and reclassifications...it's inevitable.

    Might as well bone up on the rules

    http://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms.../australia.php

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    I suspect you are correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    I foresee that the next 'gun violence' massacre in Canada will force the governing politicians to boiler plate the Australian model and modify our present Firearm legislation to add further restrictions and reclassifications...it's inevitable.


    Might as well bone up on the rules

    http://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearms.../australia.php
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member

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    At least the Liberals don't have an issue with money, so there should be lots of funds avaiable to do a buy back of guns they no longer want you to have...I think Australia budgeted $500 million to compensate owners who found themselves now in possession of newly classified 'prohibited' firearms.

    The buyback program started in most states on October 1, 1996, and ended on September 30, 1997. More than 640,000 prohibited firearms were surrendered nationwide as part of the buyback program. In addition, it was reported that about 60,000 nonprohibited firearms were voluntarily surrendered without compensation. According to a telephone poll conducted in 1999 on behalf of the federal government by Gun Control Australia, there were about 3.25 million guns in Australia prior to the 1996–1997 buyback program. One study on the impact of the buyback states that “[i]n terms of the absolute numbers of guns destroyed, Australia’s gun buyback ranks as the largest destruction of civilian firearms in any country over the period 1991–2006.” The buyback was reported to have resulted in the withdrawal of one-fifth of the stock of civilian firearms in the country and substantially reduced the number of households possessing a firearm.

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    sorry double tap

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePal View Post
    At least the Liberals don't have an issue with money, so there should be lots of funds avaiable to do a buy back of guns they no longer want you to have...I think Australia budgeted $500 million to compensate owners who found themselves now in possession of newly classified 'prohibited' firearms.
    ​RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by standup View Post
    ​RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Sorry if all this talk has you on edge Standup....maybe you need to sit quietly out in a tree stand for awhile. We're just musing over a possible reality down the road

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    Ya but all I'm saying is, ain't gonna happen. Not a lyberal alive that doesn't know mention of anything from the old play book (registry included) wouldn't kill them come next election. They know they only won cause Harper was up and turdole had the rock star appeal. They know darned well we're going to have a Kenny, Raitt or Baird in there so their not going to want baggage. I'd bet the AK I just bought on it.

    SO RELAX !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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