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October 27th, 2015, 08:25 AM
#31

Originally Posted by
johny
I know I'll be run down for this comment.
But wounding deer run by dogs is despicable.
Just because another guy manages to finish off your bad shooting does not make it a good hunt.
How often do you shoot and fail to retrieve with hounds?
Better yet, how often do you or others without hounds shoot and fail to retrieve???
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October 27th, 2015 08:25 AM
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October 27th, 2015, 08:51 AM
#32
The guy whos shoots it. If more then one guy shoots it, its the first guys deer.
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October 27th, 2015, 12:00 PM
#33

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
I see the general consensus is the shooter gets it. My sentiments exactly! The reason I asked is because I was invited to a hunt down in the Morrisburg area and that is one of the questions I asked. Apparently with this group, the camp gets the rack? I declined the offer for other reasons, but it left a bad taste with me? I suppose if a person knows this rule ahead of time, then have at it, but not on my watch!
Think if you belong to a group your a like minded collection so it shouldn't be an issue. Just like all the other camp rules either you follow them or leave.

Originally Posted by
JBen
Haven't done a lot of camp hunting, but this subject seems to come up a lot. While "shooter first option" has merit I wonder if it's the fairest.
Multiple shooters as above is one potential problem. Especially if any of the shots/wounds leave fatality in question. Whose shot was it that downed it?
But I also wonder about less tangible things.
Its just above freezing, damp and miserable and one guy has been doing a lot of the pushing/drives.
Its arguable at least to me, that those doing the drives do more to put the buck in the shooters way, than the shooter who happened to be in the right place that day.
Not sure if there's a right or wrong. Knowing myself, if I ran a hunt camp I might give thought to a simple lottery system at the start of the week. First name drawn has first dibs (guys who may not want anymore can pass, there by increasing the others odds).
True,we all want any rack on our wall to be one we ourselves shot.
I'm thinking if I'm sitting a stand, sipping warm coffee, fairly dry and comfortabl, not busting a sweat, and a nice 10pter or more comes busting out into my shooting lane... All I've done is pull the trigger, someone else did all the work
My thoughts exactly. You shoot a nice buck you already have a collection why not reward your dogger with the rack if they busted their hump to put it infront of you.

Originally Posted by
patvetzal
I don't really care who shot it, I would hang ANY rack rather than see it go to the dump. Even old racks from camp after the shooter has long died. A good looking rack looks good no matter who it came from.
Of course I am of the age when I can appreciate a good looking rack on a fourteen, forty or sixty year old....
Fourteen? Bit young don't you think? Might want to edit your post before the RCMP come a knocking you dirty old man
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October 27th, 2015, 03:23 PM
#34
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
johny
I know I'll be run down for this comment.
But wounding deer run by dogs is despicable.
Just because another guy manages to finish off your bad shooting does not make it a good hunt.
How often do you shoot and fail to retrieve with hounds?
Apologies to the OP, looks like I opened a can of worms on this one...
Johny, for a guy who's usually quite knowledgeable in some areas, I think you're long on opinion and short on experience here. I'm not sure if your comments are directed at me personally or hound camps in general. How often did I shoot and fail to retrieve with hounds? Exactly 0 times. How often did that particular camp lose a deer? Twice that I can remember over 20+ years of hunting there. Hound camps lose far less deer than you might think. 2 lost deer out of 75 or 80 is probably a better ratio than most solo hunters achieve in a lifetime. I would consider this camp to have been on the lower rungs of the ladder in terms of capability also. Part of the reason I no longer hunt with them.
Maybe I didn't explain things clearly enough in my original comment. When a deer was shot by more than one blocker, which was a rare occurrence, the deer was basically running dead by the time it covered the 150 yards or so to the next guy. Most of the time a deer running ahead of the dogs could be stopped with a whistle or a bleat to provide a standing shot, but not always. Yes, there were misses. Yes, deer were occasionally hit marginally and recovered later. This is no different than what happens throughout the rest of the province in archery, shotgun or rifle season.
These days I prefer to hunt relaxed deer. A few of us started a new camp where we do things differently - tree stands, ground blinds, smaller group, less confusion, relaxed deer, etc. Although at times I still miss the excitement of the hound camp, there's nothing quite like it.
Your comments are insulting to a whole genre of deer hunters in Central Ontario where it's been done that way for a long, long time. Don't knock it until you try it...
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October 27th, 2015, 09:15 PM
#35

Originally Posted by
patvetzal
Of course I am of the age when I can appreciate a good looking rack on a fourteen, forty or sixty year old....
Just weird.
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October 27th, 2015, 10:06 PM
#36

Originally Posted by
x_xeon_x
Just weird.
This started out following a statement that one shooter saw no reason why they would want to display a trophy shot/caught by someone else. I maintain that a trophy is nice to look at no matter who shoots it, or how old it is. A trophy can have two points or twelve, just as a woman can be beautiful at any age.
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October 28th, 2015, 06:22 AM
#37
Always the shooter, why would I want someone elses rack? (deer rack that is) :P
That be like putting your bowling trophy on my mantle.
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October 28th, 2015, 06:49 AM
#38
I made it legal for you

Originally Posted by
patvetzal
I don't really care who shot it, I would hang ANY rack rather than see it go to the dump. Even old racks from camp after the shooter has long died. A good looking rack looks good no matter who it came from.
Of course I am of the age when I can appreciate a good looking rack on a twenty, thirty or early forty year old....
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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October 28th, 2015, 06:41 PM
#39

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
"I know I'll be run down for this comment."
...and so you should be because its pretty stupid.
Just to be more politically correct, not stupid. Just ignorant..........but yeah, pretty stupid.
shooter (first shooter) get the rack.
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October 28th, 2015, 08:53 PM
#40
I showed this thread to a friend who told me that his old camp had what they called "The Rack Room" where everyone who took a buck over the last 70 years had the rack hung on a wall with their name and date engraved on a small plate attached underneath. I haven't seen it,yet,but,he said the room was solid racks from floor to ceiling on every wall except the bar. Many have long passed,but,what a beautiful memorial to the camp's and it's hunters.