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November 22nd, 2015, 03:00 PM
#11
Some miss the whole point of black powder hunting... Eventually those savages will be banned by mnr for use as a muzzleloader they are no different than a rifle which was what was banned in the first place in populated hunting areas and replaced with shot guns and muzzleloaders.
theres a reason some U.S. States classify a muzzleloader as having a flint ignition...,
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November 22nd, 2015 03:00 PM
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November 22nd, 2015, 03:52 PM
#12

Originally Posted by
Monster29/66
Some miss the whole point of black powder hunting...
I'm one of the ones that prefers shooting with a percussion cap, patch and ball and lots of smoke out of my .45 Kentucky...but I can see the desire (fun) for some long range (400yd) shooting with an ML, so the ML10 fills that need. Eventually I may looking in the Remington Ultimate to develop the skill for 300 yd shooting, impractical for hunting here, but fun on the range and you can scale it back for the 50 yds shots.
Congrats on the Buck, Bell...sorry for the hijack.
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November 22nd, 2015, 04:19 PM
#13

Originally Posted by
MikePal
I guess, but if he has my luck, I haven't had one farther than 75 yrds in the past 10 yrs

I still have my 54 cal. percussion Hawken style that I built on an "Sharon Barrel Works kit " extremely accurate , but the reason I switched to smokeless was that we hunt in the early Dec. hunt and one year we had so much snow , snowed pretty heavily most every day .
On about the 3rd. day while it was snowing heavily I had 2 misfires due to dampness getting in and around the percussion cap even though I use a "cows knee " piece of leather to try and keep the area around it dry.
It was a bit exasperating to hear "click" replace that percussion cap with a fresh one and hear another "click" and then watch an 8 pointer bound away from about 60 yards.
The Savage has yet to fail, rain or snow , even though my longest shot is only about 112 yards [lazered ], I know it will do the job out to 200 yards and a little more "provided I do mine ".
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November 22nd, 2015, 07:28 PM
#14

Originally Posted by
Monster29/66
Some miss the whole point of black powder hunting... Eventually those savages will be banned by mnr for use as a muzzleloader they are no different than a rifle which was what was banned in the first place in populated hunting areas and replaced with shot guns and muzzleloaders.
theres a reason some U.S. States classify a muzzleloader as having a flint ignition...,
We don't have black powder seasons in Ontario, we have muzzleloader seasons. What style of muzzleloader and the type of powder and projectile used is left to the individual to decide. If it was decided only percussion cap or flintlock guns could only be used, the majority of guys currently hunting muzzleloader seasons would be out of luck. Inline guns dominate now.
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November 24th, 2015, 01:27 PM
#15
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Monster29/66
Some miss the whole point of black powder hunting... Eventually those savages will be banned by mnr for use as a muzzleloader they are no different than a rifle which was what was banned in the first place in populated hunting areas and replaced with shot guns and muzzleloaders.
theres a reason some U.S. States classify a muzzleloader as having a flint ignition...,
Hell of a difference to a rifle. I have never loaded a rifle from the front. It is a muzzleloader just doesn't use black powder is all. Yes they are accurate but so what.
MNR isn't banning these guns either - where did that idea come from?
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November 24th, 2015, 02:17 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
Big Jack
Hell of a difference to a rifle. I have never loaded a rifle from the front. It is a muzzleloader just doesn't use black powder is all. Yes they are accurate but so what.
MNR isn't banning these guns either - where did that idea come from?
Well said. What is important to me is consistent accuracy from shot to shot. If I do my part using a good rest I want to hit exactly where I am aiming. I am not in to wounding deer & having to track them all night for miles only to lose them in the end. You can keep those old flint-lock guns that might work on a good day...
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November 24th, 2015, 03:14 PM
#17
Has too much time on their hands
Good job on those deer! How did the 5744 do at the range? Was that what was used in the deer?
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November 24th, 2015, 04:28 PM
#18
Jeff, have you chrono graphed that load? I chrono'd 42gn with 250ssts at 1900, pretty slow, I'm wondering how your projectile expanded, clearly it worked ok at 30 yards, but I am wondering at longer ranges how they expand
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November 24th, 2015, 08:40 PM
#19

Originally Posted by
Big Jack
Good job on those deer! How did the 5744 do at the range? Was that what was used in the deer?
The 5744 was flawless on the range & in the field with great accuracy. I used 44gr of the 5744 with the Hornady .300gr xtp magnum with the MMP high pressure sabot. Thanks again for the powder!! It made my hunt much more enjoyable....
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November 24th, 2015, 08:44 PM
#20

Originally Posted by
Nismo
Jeff, have you chrono graphed that load? I chrono'd 42gn with 250ssts at 1900, pretty slow, I'm wondering how your projectile expanded, clearly it worked ok at 30 yards, but I am wondering at longer ranges how they expand
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I never had the time to chrono the load I am using. True all my shots were under 30 yards & to be honest it's becuase I hunt in my archery spots & generally don't need to shoot past 50 yards.