Climate change ?? Really?

[Hunter John]

We have onlywiped multiples species off the face of earth...... guess that was just mothernature....

I was speaking to climate change, I could care less about taxes. No onedoubts natural climate change but to say we are not accelerating it orexpanding the highs and lows needs to get there head out of the sand. I am far from stupid.....

Please read Jakezillas first link rational optimist

[kickingfrog]

Have so many forgotten what the tobacco companies claimed for decades?

[skypilot]

Have so many forgotten what the tobacco companies claimed for decades?

Agreed, they were getting rich off the misery of others, then the liebrals of the free world figured out how to do the same thing with climate change.

[terrym]

We have onlywiped multiples species off the face of earth...... guess that was just mothernature....

I was speaking to climate change, I could care less about taxes. No onedoubts natural climate change but to say we are not accelerating it orexpanding the highs and lows needs to get there head out of the sand. I am far from stupid.....

species of plants , animals , birds have been disappearing from this planet for millions of years before man could walk upright or discovered fire. Some would call it evolution but the left would rather just blame Harper.

[mooboy76]

Speaking of climate change... anyone seen the new Antarctic ice decline.... NOT.
https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard...ecord-maximum/

From the article linked above:

The upward trend in the Antarctic, however, is only about a third of the magnitude of the rapid loss of sea ice in the Arctic Ocean.

Sounds like an overall decline to me.

The phenomenon is explained in the same article

[kickingfrog]

Agreed, they were getting rich off the misery of others, then the liebrals of the free world figured out how to do the same thing with climate change.

How convenient that the oil companies took up the other side before the left figured it out eh.

[skypilot]

How convenient that the oil companies took up the other side before the left figured it out eh.

So, true stated hypocrisy as usual from a lefty, it's bad for big oil and SHAREHOLDERS but good for big red liebrals to lie to the masses? sheesh

[Rugger]

From the article linked above:


Sounds like an overall decline to me.

The phenomenon is explained in the same article

Hey now Mooboy, there's no room for science in this discussion. Besides, your source is no good! You see the people in the video you linked to have Dr. in front of their names which means they spent around 8 years in liberalist institutions being brainwashed by leftist ideology. This is only compounded by the fact that the more educated a person is the more stupid they become because they graduate into the realm of yuppy, frufru, idologs, who are no longer in touch with reality.
Better to go looking for fact in the Costco fiction section

[mosquito]

I will take the slight global warming to an ice age any time...
anyone have a REALLY REALLY REALLY long ice auger????
http://static5.businessinsider.com/i...ugh-the-us.jpg


http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-...g-freeze/30336

This warm spell is already 11,600 years old, and it must surely, in the normal course of things, come to an end. In the early 1970s, after two decades of slight cooling, many scientists were convinced that the moment was at hand. They were “increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age,” said Time in 1974. The “almost unanimous” view of meteorologists was that the cooling trend would “reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century,” and “the resulting famines could be catastrophic,” said Newsweek in 1975.

Since then, of course, warmth has returned, probably driven at least partly by man-made carbon-dioxide emissions. A new paper, from universities in Cambridge, London and Florida, drew headlines last week for arguing that these emissions may avert the return of the ice age. Less noticed was the fact that the authors, by analogy with a previous warm spell 780,000 years ago that’s a “dead ringer” for our own, expect the next ice age to start “within about 1,500 years.” Hardly the day after tomorrow.

Still, it’s striking that most interglacials begin with an abrupt warming, peak sharply, then begin a gradual descent into cooler conditions before plunging rather more rapidly toward the freezer.



I have seen enough short term studies that are extrapolated into exaggerated and error prone predictions to realize that:

1) If it is true... so what

2) Is it a bad thing.... no one knows but there is alot of guesses with alot of counter guesses.

3) Most of the rhetoric is fear mongering to get people to change their lifestyle and pay more taxes.

4) They are ignoring real issues (air pollution, water pollution, invasive species, decline in wildlife and green areas that would absorb some of that carbon, over crowding, terrorism, education...etc) and wasting billions to do studies that are often no more than guesses... and most often look like tax and funding grabs and ideologically and power driven instead of thought out, planned and fact based. For example Suzuki's recent comparison to the oil industry to slavery, rhetoric, fear mongering.. I would even say delusional.

[skypilot]

Hey now Mooboy, there's no room for science in this discussion. Besides, your source is no good! You see the people in the video you linked to have Dr. in front of their names which means they spent around 8 years in liberalist institutions being brainwashed by leftist ideology. This is only compounded by the fact that the more educated a person is the more stupid they become because they graduate into the realm of yuppy, frufru, idologs, who are no longer in touch with reality.
Better to go looking for fact in the Costco fiction section

Yep, complete immersion in liberalism from cradle to grave( school, TV, liberal rag newspapers, more liberal brainwashing in school, more liberal TV, newspapers, overdose of liberal bs in college........

yep no way you could be a brainwashed liberal as a mod or a scientist.

Dr don't mean anything other than you succumbed to the liberal bs or endured to the end.