Climate change ?? Really?

[Big Jack]

You have not said what should be done, or what you would do to change the path of destruction we are on. Well any ideas?

Humans on earth equate to an ant on the a s s of an elephant. We don't drive the old girl she drives us. Get your head around that.

[skypilot]

You have not said what should be done, or what you would do to change the path of destruction we are on. Well any ideas?

What path of destruction? What exactly and where exactly is the world destruction? I have yet to find the Bible wrong and the Bible describes how the world ends as we now know it, but certainly not from climate change.

I have invested a enormous of time money and human energy involved in the environment field, and on the government's edicts toward compliance, and I have NO DOUBT that this is all about money and control of national manufacturing/industry..

The government isn't at all interested in emissions or their reduction other than as a monetary and control device.

Observe who gets the Federal money, disaster assistance, federal help in general in the States. It won't be the coal states or the Gulf Coast offshore oil states.

I have worked closely with the Feds during EPA Title 5 permitting compliance which includes WCS from cloud burst or ground burst and the resulting blast over pressures and release from terrorist attacks and how to mitigate and what those detailed mitigations are.

I can testify completely and honestly that governments do not care about pollution other than from a controlling point on industry. I have literally spent weeks educating inspectors and their Supervisors on processes and showing them where and how to improve and or completely eliminate the emission at the source only to have them ignore the tree by focusing on the insignificant splinter.

It's about revenue and control.

[mosquito]

You have not said what should be done, or what you would do to change the path of destruction we are on. Well any ideas?

1) Spend less on windmills and more on sewage treatment, more efficient transportation and better quality housing (materials, standards and inspections).
Accomplishments:
i) more economical and environmentally friendly than the required materials in a windmill
ii) cleaner water.
iii) cleaner air, less manhours wasted, less exhaust fumes
iv) less wasted electricity and gas during heating and cooling seasons.
v) personal results of more money in a persons pocket, reduced debt, better economy

2) Less bureaucrats and more field personnel and smarter priorities (not like this nonsense over the raw milk where 20+ hazmat staff show up...)
i) better inspections of manufacturing and construction
ii) better inspections of waste from factories (no off hour dumping...)
iii) better environmental standards and results
iv) cleaner water, less hazardous waste
v) end to off hours dumping to avoid inspections

3) ... already been done.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/story/1.2517710
The Conservative government has introduced legislation that would dramatically bump up the amount of liability coverage required for nuclear plants and offshore oil and gas operations.

The new $1-billion liability replaces the current $75-million minimum for nuclear operators and liability thresholds of between $30 million and $40 million for energy companies and offshore shippers, depending on where they operate

Learn from our mistakes and next time blow the Lieberals out of the water Federally and Provincially in the next election!!!

That would be a good environmental start and step 4 on making a better Canada...

Liberals OK massive sewage dump in Montreal,
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...r-for-humanity

Former Conservative environment minister Peter Kent announced last October that the government was planning to spend about $1 billion over three years, as part of the plan’s $3.5-billion budget, to focus on cleaning up 1,100 high priority sites and to evaluate the state of about 1,650 sites
http://o.canada.com/news/cleanup-bil...unting-records

[trimmer21]

1) Spend less on windmills and more on sewage treatment, more efficient transportation and better quality housing (materials, standards and inspections).
Accomplishments:
i) more economical and environmentally friendly than the required materials in a windmill
ii) cleaner water.
iii) cleaner air, less manhours wasted, less exhaust fumes
iv) less wasted electricity and gas during heating and cooling seasons.
v) personal results of more money in a persons pocket, reduced debt, better economy

2) Less bureaucrats and more field personnel and smarter priorities (not like this nonsense over the raw milk where 20+ hazmat staff show up...)
i) better inspections of manufacturing and construction
ii) better inspections of waste from factories (no off hour dumping...)
iii) better environmental standards and results
iv) cleaner water, less hazardous waste
v) end to off hours dumping to avoid inspections

3) ... already been done.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/story/1.2517710
The Conservative government has introduced legislation that would dramatically bump up the amount of liability coverage required for nuclear plants and offshore oil and gas operations.

The new $1-billion liability replaces the current $75-million minimum for nuclear operators and liability thresholds of between $30 million and $40 million for energy companies and offshore shippers, depending on where they operate



That would be a good environmental start and step 4 on making a better Canada...

Liberals OK massive sewage dump in Montreal,
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...r-for-humanity

Former Conservative environment minister Peter Kent announced last October that the government was planning to spend about $1 billion over three years, as part of the plan’s $3.5-billion budget, to focus on cleaning up 1,100 high priority sites and to evaluate the state of about 1,650 sites
http://o.canada.com/news/cleanup-bil...unting-records

It's too bad these threads don't have a "LIKE" button. Good post.

[mosquito]

It's too bad these threads don't have a "LIKE" button. Good post.

Thanks, I had one more note to add after watching some TV tonight. People just don't realize how much affects climate, orbit, sun activity, volcanoes.... the show I watched was on the Iceland volcanoes. The one big one having not erupted for 100 years, but erupts every 50 years on average. The recent small one interrupted air travel but think what a larger one could do, clouds of ash disrupting much larger areas, clouds of sulphuric acid and yes even global climate change.... the recent Iceland eruption was short but they said it looks like some could last a year and affect the climate for years.

For those that are interested, I did find a small clip on the 1783 eruption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeBGd4mRxXk

and the larger show I watched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ablW3VBh8SM

[trimmer21]

Humans are still,after all these mellenia walking upright,dumber than a bag of hammers when it comes to all things related to Mother Nature. Not long ago,humans would cower in fear and make sacrifices to the Gods when a hurricane or tornado struck or commit mass suicide during a solar eclipse. Listening to all these "chicken littles" claiming global warming is the end of the world provides proof of how little we have evolved.

[upnorth]

Humans are still,after all these mellenia walking upright,dumber than a bag of hammers when it comes to all things related to Mother Nature. Not long ago,humans would cower in fear and make sacrifices to the Gods when a hurricane or tornado struck or commit mass suicide during a solar eclipse. Listening to all these "chicken littles" claiming global warming is the end of the world provides proof of how little we have evolved.

Well, it wouldn't be the first mass extinction event in our planets history. Of course were talking about 100's of millions of years here.

But, non the less... wouldn't be the first.

[trimmer21]

Well, it wouldn't be the first mass extinction event in our planets history. Of course were talking about 100's of millions of years here.

But, non the less... wouldn't be the first.

Yep,I guess we're w-a-a-a-y overdue,then,like more puff of smoke from a volcano and it's all over......next week.

[mosquito]

Yep,I guess we're w-a-a-a-y overdue,then,like more puff of smoke from a volcano and it's all over......next week.

There are things like the Kat la volcano and family in Iceland, the mega volcano in Yosemite, Solar flares like the 1859 event, one large meteor....those and more would all trashcan our civilization and millions or billions dead....if the 1783 volcano repeated itself the show suggested over 100,000 in Europe dying and that wasn't one of the large eruptions they think ...... heck the world isn't a safe place... barring Jesus return....you won't get out alive! <insert maniacal laugh here>


P.S. I know...can we find someone that thinks it might work and let them sacrifice our current leaders in Ottawa and Toronto!!!

[Hunter John]

Chump change 2.6 Large

http://globalnews.ca/news/2365737/tr...509149a7de5e97