Haviland Bay dog seriously injured by arrow

[welsh]

Yeah, okay. Because of course every dog is scary and threatening. Owning a dog is a BIGGER responsibility than handling a firearm!

Silly season is getting sillier by the minute.

As for your previous response, GreyTech: yes, you asked the question, and I answered it by pointing out that you were out to lunch on the facts. Then you called me a hypocrite out of the blue, over something I never said. Get back to me when you've learned to behave like a grownup.

[jaycee]

it is also the owner's responsibility to have the dog leashed or controlled at all the time. As I know I am responsible for every bullet and arrow that leaves my presence.

Tell me how I or others are going to hunt rabbits or coyotes with their Beagles and Walkers , Blueticks , Black and Tans , these are all running game chasing hunting sports .It would be impossible to have these type of hunts if your dog was leashed .
Please use some common sense and a little forethought -[noun fore·thought \ˈfȯr-ˌthȯt\. : careful thinking or planning about the future. ] before you come on here and make some of these ridiculous statements.

Leashes are required only were the Town or Municipality has passed such a By Law .

[Waftrudnir]

Not debating that there are irresponsible dog owners for one second, but when we talk about "threat" I were to list a few things before.
My personal worst accident was because I kid ran out in front of me and I only had the option of hitting him or opting for a very painful dismount from the cycle. Have I started to insist children are to be kept on a leash?
Have I been bitten by dogs? Sure! Last time was only a few weeks ago - after decades of zero incidents. First large breed (no hunting dog) by the way. The dog was on a 3' leash and under full supervision. Believe it or not: That was the cause! Big deal? Hell no.
The lady who cut me off this morning on the way to work was more of a threat...

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[trimmer21]

It turns out that it wasn't a hunter,just a neighborhood a**hole.

[poltrojan]

Tell me how I or others are going to hunt rabbits or coyotes with their Beagles and Walkers , Blueticks , Black and Tans , these are all running game chasing hunting sports .It would be impossible to have these type of hunts if your dog was leashed .
Please use some common sense and a little forethought -[noun fore·thought \ˈfȯr-ˌthȯt\. : careful thinking or planning about the future. ] before you come on here and make some of these ridiculous statements.

Leashes are required only were the Town or Municipality has passed such a By Law .

*sigh* I think you misunderstood me. We have an English Springier Spaniel that we take hunting. We have a command or a whistle to call him. Our dog when he sees another person or dog; he doesn't advance without our command, he's been trained to wait for 'it's ok' or a whistle to call back. that's controlled dog off the leash.

[Waftrudnir]

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Our dog when he sees another person or dog; he doesn't advance without our command, he's been trained to wait for 'it's ok' or a whistle to call back. that's controlled dog off the leash.

...and did training your dog to consistently do that involve off leash walks in public areas? I would assume yes.
A well socialized dog is not an issue. The problem is how to get there, if you cannot have your puppy tag along (e.g. any public buildings, etc.)?
The reasons (aside from the hygienic aspect, which I'm not going to debate): Safety or someone might be allergic. First, that person is just as allergic to service dogs (which are rightfully exempted) as they would be to any other dog. Second, there are not many people with actual life threatening allergies. For the most part the reason for allergies are some mommies needing an interesting topic for their housewife symposium.
The problem seems to be that it is harder and harder to find some middle-ground, which most often requires common sense.

[Sharon]

Even the Hullet rules say that "Dogs must be leashed or under immediate control of the handler." The immediate part concerns me sometimes as I have a BIG running setter .

[welsh]

The problem seems to be that it is harder and harder to find some middle-ground, which most often requires common sense.

Wise words. And this is why a post about a dog shot with an arrow by some neighbourhood jerk has become a thread about why you have to keep your bad dangerous dog under control at all times or people will just have to shoot it: a lack of common sense.

[GreyTech]

Yeah, okay. Because of course every dog is scary and threatening. Owning a dog is a BIGGER responsibility than handling a firearm!

Silly season is getting sillier by the minute.

As for your previous response, GreyTech: yes, you asked the question, and I answered it by pointing out that you were out to lunch on the facts. Then you called me a hypocrite out of the blue, over something I never said. Get back to me when you've learned to behave like a grownup.

Perhaps you should read more carefully, I never initially stated any facts I asked a question, so I could not have been "out to lunch on the facts". Nor did I direct the hypocrite statement at anyone in particular, but if the shoe fits..... You took a tone with your initial reply that was unnecessary. Perhaps you should keep your emotions a bit more in check, you know, like a grownup.
PS yes looking after a dependent living thing is far more responsibility than occasionally oiling your gun. Any 5 year old can confirm this for you if you are still in doubt.
As far as safe gun handling, anyone who aims a loaded weapon anywhere it can do unintentional or illegal harm should probably be shot themselves to get them out of the gene pool.