180$ fine delevered to my door!

[jlmorgan]

Used to do the controlled hunt with muzzle loader in 92B and there was a mandatory questionare every year and if you didn't fill it out you weren't eligible for the controlled hunt the next year, pretty plain and simple, no money or co's involved.

[greatwhite]

They are lucky I even filled mine out normally I would have thrown out the junk mail. I saw it was an MNR envelope and when I opened it there were a bunch of ads lucky me I decide to look through it. If they are going to send out an important information it should not include ads for companies.

[fishermccann]

Ads paid some of the costs to send out.

[greatwhite]

Then I would think it would also have covered the postage. Considering the cash poured in from outdoors people and adds and the huge cutbacks in the MNR.

Ads paid some of the costs to send out.

[fishermccann]

I see it just like the ads in the hunting and fishing regs. A necessary evil to reduce costs.

[greatwhite]

More money is poured in then is put back into the MNR.

[Species8472]

More money is poured in then is put back into the MNR.

Not actually true. The operating budget for the MNR is about $650 million per year. The number of licensed anglers and/or hunters is about 750,000 (and the majority of this number are fisherman who only buy a fishing licence and no tags). In order for your statement to be true every single one of those people would have to be spending over $865 every year on licenses and tags. Don't know about you but I don't come anywhere close to that and I small game hunt, big game hunt and fish.

[MikePal]

If its sounds odd its probably because you dont have the Good guy thing going for you!!!

Or maybe it's because of all those years where I sat behind the desk on the enforcement side. I've had many a young soldier standing in front of me at attention...staring straight forward...facing the outcome for not following orders (laws). If heard all the excuses, but they rarely had a valid reason why they didn't take care of their responsibilities.

There is a phrase out there now that summarizes it up nicely; "Suck it up Buttercup"....you failed in your obligations, you were fined, you whined about it, got some support and you were picked on by some 'bullies'.

The outcome...we all got a good warning about filling in the 'mandatory' paper work after the hunt....not a bad thread all in all

[MikePal]

They are lucky I even filled mine out normally I would have thrown out the junk mail. I saw it was an MNR envelope and when I opened it there were a bunch of ads lucky me I decide to look through it. If they are going to send out an important information it should not include ads for companies.

The difference in your questionnaire GW is that it probably was voluntary, not mandatory..so you could just chuck it. I fill them out (on-line) regardless, as the information is useful to the MNR.

Factoid; back in the day when they had to be mailed in, only 6% of hunters returned their 'voluntary' questionnaires. Lots of guys whine about the MNR not doing their jobs, but the fact was, hunters failed miserable at holding up their end of the equation. I wonder how many more returns they get now that it's on-line.

If they were really just doing a "cash crab"; they'd make it mandatory in all WMU's, add the $180 fine and then watch the money roll in

[fratri]

Not actually true. The operating budget for the MNR is about $650 million per year. The number of licensed anglers and/or hunters is about 750,000 (and the majority of this number are fisherman who only buy a fishing licence and no tags). In order for your statement to be true every single one of those people would have to be spending over $865 every year on licenses and tags. Don't know about you but I don't come anywhere close to that and I small game hunt, big game hunt and fish.

They should be paying hunters using general tax revenue to support Ontario wildlife. Follow along with me for a second..... Wildlife belongs to all residents of Ontario. So it should only be fair that all residents help maintain and keep our wildlife in check. I am more than willing to do my part, but why am I paying/doing more (buying license, time, fuel etc....) than the average Ontario resident when clearly I am managing our resources much better than most Ontarians that are just sitting at home on the couch watching TV.... Insurance companies love us....
I tell you, hunters are getting the short end of the stick and it's just not fair if you ask me.....

Edit: Off to do my part again and manage our goose population for the rest of the province.