Throne Speech: Liberals to introduce Gun control measures

[Bushmoose]

Um, no. That matter is still unresolved and the hard drive is still sealed by the court, according to news reports just last week.

Meanwhile, the Quebec government can look for all the secret copies it wants -- that doesn't mean secret copies exist.

And let's be honest here. The records, if they still exist, would be next to meaningless at this point in time. How many people have died since then, the guns sold or given away? How many have simply gotten rid of their guns, got new ones? Etc. etc..... It would show who had firearms the day before the registry was cancelled, not reliably, the day after.

[terrym]

They have up to date PAL/RPAL data. That is all the information they need to get you or like the RCMP did in High River kick in your doors and look under your bed when you are away and vulnerable. I have no doubt there are several illegal files around but they are very out of date but even when it was still active Miramichi's records were pathetic. They once sent me 3 registration cards after doing a transfer through them. My guess is the new owner of the gun I sold legally also had a valid registration card. The entire registry was nothing but pandering to gun grabbers and jobs for the Liberal voting Maritimes. It was never about safety it was always about votes.

[trimmer21]

Welsh's comments in post #71 are correct regarding the "notwithstanding clause" in the Charter. All provinces have this right,but,it's temporary and must be re-enacted every five years. However,that doesn't stop Quebec,Ontario or any other province from enacting a long gun registry within provincial legislation of their own like an addendum to the FWCA. So far,several other provinces have used it to enact their own laws,such as defending The Marriage Act in Alberta and The Languages Act in Quebec (the infamous Bill 101) among others. We need to remember that any long gun registry enacted in Quebec would only pertain to gun owners residing in that province and gun owners from outside Quebec entering and bringing their guns with them,particularily hunters and competition shooters.
I can't see Ontario getting into this because of it's tremendous start-up and ongoing maintenance costs which would never be recoverable or "revenue neutral". There may even be a huge hit to the bottom line of OMNRF from collapses in license sales as collateral damage from people getting out of the sport altogether besides the fact that she would face huge opposition to any provincial LGR proposal which would,without doubt,cause severe political ramifications down the road.

[terrym]

I don't think she cares what people think anymore. The financial experts told her it was cheaper to just borrow the money to lower her reported deficits than it was to sell off Hydro but she disregarded the advice. There is talk of interest rates going negative soon so borrowing has never been easier ( thank god). They proved the loss of revenue down the road from Hydro billing would be detrimental to us, again she didn't care. Polling proved that the majority of Ontarians object to selling off Hydro. Logic, hard data common sense mean nothing to her. Hydro is being sold off to PS unions at a discount likely and again it's payback to guarantee future support next election. Not convinced either that she would even face much protest if some "type" of registry happened. Gun owners are a minority and spread out over too many ridings to tip the vote. In other words we don't matter much. JT will facilitate and subsidize start up costs if she asks for it, guaranteed.

[mosquito]

I don't think she cares what people think anymore. The financial experts told her it was cheaper to just borrow the money to lower her reported deficits than it was to sell off Hydro but she disregarded the advice. There is talk of interest rates going negative soon so borrowing has never been easier ( thank god). They proved the loss of revenue down the road from Hydro billing would be detrimental to us, again she didn't care. Polling proved that the majority of Ontarians object to selling off Hydro. Logic, hard data common sense mean nothing to her. Hydro is being sold off to PS unions at a discount likely and again it's payback to guarantee future support next election. Not convinced either that she would even face much protest if some "type" of registry happened. Gun owners are a minority and spread out over too many ridings to tip the vote. In other words we don't matter much. JT will facilitate and subsidize start up costs if she asks for it, guaranteed.

As was pointed out, 25% of gun owners are in Quebec... and look how the gov't is treating them. A new registry that has gone from $5,000.000 to $17,000,000 in 1 week. Here I will post the interview again.

Interesting interview Brian Lilley and Tony Bernardo of the Canadian Sport Shooting Association.

http://www.therebel.media/firearms_e...ian_gun_owners
"assault WEAPON.... anything the Liberals don't like."

The current Liberal gov'ts in Ottawa and Toronto are majorities, both have repeatedly shown contempt for Canadian values, austerity, the military and firearm owners and victims of crime (often giving preferred treatment to criminals and blaming them not the criminal).... the entitlement, corruption, tax increase and waste are just starting in Ottawa and still aren't finished in Toronto. I saw Justin with a chief today... I wonder if he will just sign over huge blocks of land or double the spending? I am betting the accountability will be gone soon there too!

[welsh]

All provinces have this right,but,it's temporary and must be re-enacted every five years. However,that doesn't stop Quebec,Ontario or any other province from enacting a long gun registry within provincial legislation of their own like an addendum to the FWCA. So far,several other provinces have used it to enact their own laws,such as defending The Marriage Act in Alberta and The Languages Act in Quebec (the infamous Bill 101) among others.

The provinces don't need to do anything special to create their own long gun registries -- unless the Supreme Court explicitly rules otherwise (and the court declined to comment on this in 2000, when the question was federal powers), regulation of firearms as property would fall under the powers given the provinces in the British North America Act.

All the provinces had the power to create their own registries, but from the time the registry was abolished, only Quebec talked about actually doing that.

JT will facilitate and subsidize start up costs if she asks for it, guaranteed.

This would actually require JT to pass legislation to fund something he explicitly said he wouldn't do. I don't see that happening.

Quite apart from that, Wynne has showed no interest in doing this. We're looking at a classic cognitive distortion here. If it was any more severe I'd suggest borderline paranoia ... Terry! Wynne is not out to get you!

[Bluebulldog]

I hope you are right but I don't think you are. He is a puppet to Wynne's activist agenda and the special interests who elected him. If I owned a handgun I would pizzed. Any black gun actually is likely going to be confiscated.

I've got the hot glue gun and Bedazzler ready to make my SKS in a tactical stock look less scary.....

[terrym]

Terry! Wynne is not out to get you!

Damned right she is. Me and everybody else who disagrees with her values.

[terrym]

I've got the hot glue gun and Bedazzler ready to make my SKS in a tactical stock look less scary.....

Maybe it can be Cerakoted in a rainbow motif?

[Bluebulldog]

Maybe it can be Cerakoted in a rainbow motif?

...I like the way you think.....