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December 21st, 2015, 03:21 PM
#11
Last edited by MikePal; December 21st, 2015 at 04:27 PM.
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December 21st, 2015 03:21 PM
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December 21st, 2015, 04:34 PM
#12

Originally Posted by
terrym
My dog has the whole family wrapped around his toe. Does that make him smarter than us?
No. This may mean he feels he is more 'dominant' than you, your wife, and kids. Having a dog at the top of the hierarchy is most often a dangerous thing. This is often followed by food possession issues, aggression and sometimes biting. Dangerous for the family, and ultimately the animal.
Although we often treat our dogs as 'part of the family', we need to remind them regularly that they're at the BOTTOM of the chain of command.
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December 21st, 2015, 04:41 PM
#13

Originally Posted by
MikePal
So the "over 200 professional dog obedience judges" couldn't tell the difference between a smart dog and and intelligent dog.
Yup. Learning to sit on command is one thing. Learning to run a downwind pattern is another thing entirely.
Brian Hare's book, The Genius of Dogs, gives a good takedown of Stanley Coren's ranking.

Originally Posted by
urbansherpa
No. This may mean he feels he is more 'dominant' than you, your wife, and kids. Having a dog at the top of the hierarchy is most often a dangerous thing.
Speaking of ideas discredited by people who actually study dog behavior for a living ... "dominance" is one.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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December 22nd, 2015, 09:10 AM
#14
I have to say I think my female Lab is pretty smart.
When I am home she is very well behaved & sticks with me around the house. To me she is a great loyal & obedient companion.
When I am not home she turns in to "the devil dog" (my wife's words).
She has figured out that as soon as I leave she can act up & be destructive with the girls ... LOL
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December 22nd, 2015, 10:28 AM
#15

Originally Posted by
urbansherpa
No. This may mean he feels he is more 'dominant' than you, your wife, and kids. Having a dog at the top of the hierarchy is most often a dangerous thing. This is often followed by food possession issues, aggression and sometimes biting. Dangerous for the family, and ultimately the animal.
Although we often treat our dogs as 'part of the family', we need to remind them regularly that they're at the BOTTOM of the chain of command.
Clearly you missed the humor and couldn't have mis "diagnosed" our dog more if you tried to. This dog will let any dog feed in his bowl and you can remove food from his mouth anytime. When he used to still get chew bones he actually liked having us hold it for him. Bizzare but true. He isn't dominant at all with us in fact he lives to please and serve. When hunting he's a killing machine but that's what he is bred and trained for. In the house he's a spoiled ham.
Last edited by terrym; December 22nd, 2015 at 10:32 AM.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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December 22nd, 2015, 04:45 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
terrym
My dog has the whole family wrapped around his toe. Does that make him smarter than us?
Definitely a joke from Terry. He's an experienced trainer and no dog would "dominate" in his house.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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December 22nd, 2015, 06:37 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
terrym
Clearly you missed the humor and couldn't have mis "diagnosed" our dog more if you tried to. This dog will let any dog feed in his bowl and you can remove food from his mouth anytime. When he used to still get chew bones he actually liked having us hold it for him. Bizzare but true. He isn't dominant at all with us in fact he lives to please and serve. When hunting he's a killing machine but that's what he is bred and trained for. In the house he's a spoiled ham.
Haha....sorry, Terry. My apologies. If I'd read more of your previous posts I would have seen the humour. I have a (long-legged)
Jack Russell terrier who loves to push limits every day. Had several dogs before that, too. Our terrier will growl when my son plays rough with him, but goes dead silent when I lean in and do the same. It's funny to watch. I think terriers tend to be one of the most 'domineering' breeds. From day one I made sure that no issues were developing. Great hunting dog, though. Squirrels beware. If I could get him to retrieve ducks he'd be perfect!
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December 22nd, 2015, 07:04 PM
#18
No apologies needed. Russells are lunatic dogs. Probably not a benchmark to compare to normal dogs. ( just busting your chops again
). I expect Sharon to jump in and slap me over these comments. She's nuts too.......LoL!
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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December 22nd, 2015, 07:35 PM
#19
LOL But they are so cute - the little buggra.
This week he didn't want to move over on the couch so I could have more room. Growled and took a swipe at my face . Needless to say, he won't be doing that again.... you can fill in the blanks. 

Sorry pic is so big ; photobucket seems to be kerflewy to night. If anyone can make it smaller go for it.
Last edited by Sharon; December 22nd, 2015 at 07:40 PM.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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December 23rd, 2015, 07:45 AM
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Has too much time on their hands
That's what she said. lol