Canadian Lodges charging US$

[werner.reiche]

I don't agree so much. When you compare US prices to Canadian I think it gives folks every right to complain. Specially here in Ontario where we are taxed to the hilt. Doesn't mean they still don't buy equipment though. Just go to any boat launch and admire all those gorgeous boats and high end tackle that Canadians purchase.

Cheers

In my original point about Canadians being cheap - I did state that buying very tangible things like trucks (including boats and tackle), we are much the same as Americans. Its the less tangible things - more difficult to put an exact dollar figure on - that we are cheap.

[JoePa]

You guys talk as though being cheap is a vise - answer me this - if I work hard for my money why should I just throw it around as though I get it for free - remember you can only spend it once - you either buy something you want or throw it away -

Another point - things cost a hell of a lot more in Canada - that's why we have more - boats, guns, cars, clothes, food, houses, gas - you name it -

And as far as anti-American sentiment goes - part of it is jealousy because we have more - part is Americans are more inclined to speak their mind which many Canadians think is rude

I have been going to Canada for many years - worked there for awhile - even thought of buying some land up there at one time - which at the time looked attractive because of the exchange rate - I mainly go up there to camp and fish - the remoteness of some places is nice but it is getting so that you have to travel up north to enjoy it - some places are getting just as crowded as places here in the states -

Going through the border is getting to be a pain - I have to try and schedule my crossing at the right time otherwise I'll be seating in line for a long time - something I hate - there are a lot of nice lakes here in my state and if I hit them in the spring and fall I often have the places to myself

Would I ever want to live in Canada - the remoteness in the north would be the only reason - everything else is subpar to what we have here in the states - Canada is way too liberal for my blood - here we have a lot more freedom -

[sawbill]

Some things do cost a lot more in Canada but the salaries are much higher to compensate for that.
And theres a difference between being cheap and being frugal. Cheap is buying junk when you can afford better. Frugal is shopping wisely and trying to get the most from your money.
As for you folks having more, I'd ask more what? Crime, poverty, prejudice, slums? Don't go there Joe, The States ain't what they used to be.

[ldub]

"Would I ever want to live in Canada - the remoteness in the north would be the only reason - everything else is SUBPAR to what we have here in the states - Canada is way too liberal for my blood - here we have a lot more freedom -". These comments fuel anti-American sentiment.

[jaycee]

Some things do cost a lot more in Canada but the salaries are much higher to compensate for that.
And theres a difference between being cheap and being frugal. Cheap is buying junk when you can afford better. Frugal is shopping wisely and trying to get the most from your money.
As for you folks having more, I'd ask more what? Crime, poverty, prejudice, slums? Don't go there Joe, The States ain't what they used to be.

This is readily seen just by crossing the border on the Niagara River, Queenston Ontario to Lewiston NY, Ontario side beautiful houses, landscaped lawns etc. etc. cross to Lewiston and what do you have , Cadillac cars and Suv's parked beside tarpaper cover run down shacks with junk and rubble laying all around the yards.

No thank you, I'll drive my Chevy truck and be proud of our well maintained 1 acre with it's trees shrubbery and flowers.

[Symmetre]

In my original point about Canadians being cheap - I did state that buying very tangible things like trucks (including boats and tackle), we are much the same as Americans. Its the less tangible things - more difficult to put an exact dollar figure on - that we are cheap.

Tips would be a good example. As anyone who has ever spent a summer guiding or working at a lodge will tell you.

[fishermccann]

The caddies on the Old Course in Scotland say, ' what is the difference between a Canadian and a canoe,.... a canoe tips'.

[sawbill]

We've all heard that old saw but coming from a Scotsman should suggest the credibility of its value--that is of course based on whether our beliefs that the Scots are cheap also actually holds water.

[JoePa]

Watch out guys - the Power Ball lottery is now around 1.3 Billion - the next drawing is on Wednesday - if I win I'm going to buy Canada -

[JBen]

The point being, when the wife n I go on a camping/fishing extravaganza, money is no object! We load up the truck, hook up to the trailer and go. Sometimes, I'll even let her come along?

In this battle of who is cheap and who isn't I suspect the point, or original observation is being lost?

Most outfitters I've spoken to about it, say the same things. Most of their clients are American. Bear hunting also brings in a fair number of Europeans. Does that mean we are cheap?


~There are an awful lot of post, threads about road closures in the North. Many resent outfitters having sole access for clients willing to pay to fly in, for that "remote experience"....................Conclusion why pay for it, when I can DIY. Why be upset it, no-one is saying you can't pay for the experience of being the only person on the lake......

~Bear Hunting and the Spring hunt. Not all that long ago, there were many arguments that the limited trial would have no impact unless they opened it to non residents.......Conclusion. Only a small number of Ontario hunters will go and even fewer willing to pay an outfitter.

~See also lost tourism $$ when they cancelled the hunt.......................

Moose Hunters?
How many Ontarians pay outfitters and how many DIY?

I know from talking to many outfitters, and in one case a great place I happen to love that' just outside APP, that close 90% of their clients are American and European. So why might a great, fabulous place just outside APP (a meca for tourist) struggle for Ontarian clients?

Why pay for it, when you can DIY.......
Truth is, we don't support our own....And for many Ontarians, many really don't know what we have in our own backyards.

Does it mean we are "cheap"?
Ask your wives, how many would rather go lie on a beach, drink fruity drinks....or wander the streets of New York, Paris, London, Egypt versus a week up north........

If the bulk of an outfitters clients and I have found this true almost everywhere, even southern and easter Ontario (around Kingston) are US

What difference to us if they advertise in US? None.