"Right" to own firearms

[MikePal]

I am still hopeful that going forward that events will occur to revise the Castle Doctrine and become the catalyst for property rights that include firearms rights.

Until then, the Liberals are happy with the defense that we sit in our bedrooms, loudly signing"Kumbaya" and hope that the robber will put down his gun and join us in song....oh Sunny Days

[Waftrudnir]

[QUOTE=DGearyFTE;950095]....
And of course we know how the media thrives on those types of stories.
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look at the Walid Mustapha Chalhoub case and you know HOW selective our media is - no matter how big the story; it has to support (or at least not contradict) certain propagandistic goals

[welsh]

I am confident to state that the stats will show that crime occurs predominantly in urban areas.

In fact, while the number of crimes is higher in urban areas where the population is higher, the violent crime rate is highest in rural areas and small cities. Large cities are the safest places in the country.

I am still hopeful that going forward that events will occur to revise the Castle Doctrine and become the catalyst for property rights that include firearms rights.

The key roadblock to having property rights in the Charter is the provinces -- constitutionally, property is a provincial concern.

[DGearyFTE]

In fact, while the number of crimes is higher in urban areas where the population is higher, the violent crime rate is highest in rural areas and small cities. Large cities are the safest places in the country.

The most recent Stats Can results show that violent crime and crime related to firearms is on the decline. Remember that even if a firearm is not used in the commission of a crime it is still listed as part of the stat if there is one present at the scene. Statistically it may be safest to live in a large city but I am sure you will have a hard time convincing people that live near Jane and Finch in Toronto or in Ottawa South.
My uncle left Scarborough because gangs had effectivley taken over their neighbourhood that was established in the 1950's.

In direct response to the OP and the issue of firearms it is intersting to note that the Rebel Media is reporting a 250% increase in firearms licenses in Germany post NYE.
At the same time, there is a current petition related to this exact discussion...

https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Peti...Petition=e-124

I encourage all to sign electronically

[Waftrudnir]

https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-124[/URL]

I encourage all to sign electronically

"Everyone has the right to life, liberty, security of the person and enjoyment of property and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice."

What a novel principle....

[terrym]

This whole Refugee crisis is beginning to be exactly what many predicted and partly what cost Harper his job. The politically correct left ignored the warnings and now events like Cologne are beginning. Google Sweden rapes and see how that is headed. I bet that revered world leader Angela Merkel loses her job over this. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Nazi party surge in Germany over this. They are already lining up to buy pepper spray and pellet pistols. None of this looks good.

[welsh]

The most recent Stats Can results show that violent crime and crime related to firearms is on the decline.

This has been true for 20 years, as I've pointed out several times before. Not sure how it applies to my earlier point.

Remember that even if a firearm is not used in the commission of a crime it is still listed as part of the stat if there is one present at the scene.

This is a half-truth. A crime will be recorded as a firearms crime if a firearm is the most serious weapon used. For example, a robbery where two men use a gun and a knife is a firearms robbery, not a knife robbery. But a robbery where there is a gun hidden under the counter is not recorded as a firearms robbery.

Statistically it may be safest to live in a large city but I am sure you will have a hard time convincing people that live near Jane and Finch in Toronto or in Ottawa South.

The difficulty of convincing people has nothing to do with reality. In fact, you are at less risk of violence at Jane and Finch than you are in downtown Thunder Bay on a Saturday night.

[JBen]

Its been many years since I strode through Regent Park on a regular basis, or worked plain clothes in Jane and Finch.

Welsh is right, though I'm not sure what nuances are at play. So without getting into hair splitting, or complex, convoluted discussions none of can come close to answering. Perhaps another truth first to serve an illustration.

The safest, and often quietest streets to live on....Are those where theres a Hells Angels club house. Those area's are bad, and while I felt perfectly fine to walk through Regent Park way back in the day and not sure I would today....For the most part people are left alone..

Thunder bay where various socio economic, alcoholismism and what not come into play?

[Gilroy]

Its been many years since I strode through Regent Park on a regular basis, or worked plain clothes in Jane and Finch.

Welsh is right, though I'm not sure what nuances are at play. So without getting into hair splitting, or complex, convoluted discussions none of can come close to answering. Perhaps another truth first to serve an illustration.

The safest, and often quietest streets to live on....Are those where theres a Hells Angels club house. Those area's are bad, and while I felt perfectly fine to walk through Regent Park way back in the day and not sure I would today....For the most part people are left alone..

Thunder bay where various socio economic, alcoholismism and what not come into play?

The reason you felt ok to walk through Regent Park in the old days were because me and the rest of the foot patrol where there on a daily basis. Had no idea you worked plain clothes at Jane and Finch.

[arclight]

You need to be careful with anything you have that can be used as a weapon. If you carry a bat in your car and don't ever play ball then you are likely to be judged as being predisposed to use it as a weapon and it being considered a weapon as opposed to the guy who has several bats and a sack full of little league gear in the minivan. Basically you need to make sure that you don't end up being portrayed as person looking to get into a fight. My guns like many others are stored in a triple locked vault in the basement so I would have to rush by intruders on the main floor ( only floor with doors) to access the guns for self defense. Not really of any use in an emergency. Our safe storage laws pretty well prevent firearms to be used in a home invasion.

I disagree that the storage laws exist to prevent firearm use in defence situations. They are designed to prevent unauthorized access to the firearms. If you look at the RCMP storage and transport of firearms website, non restricted firearms have to be stored unloaded and either secured with a secure locking device, or stored in a safe/vault/or a room designed to store firearms. The same applies for restricted firearms. You can also keep the ammo in the same container. You can buy a rapid access pistol safe, store a pistol in it without a trigger lock and place a loaded magazine inside the safe. It is perfectly legal. If you are involved in a shooting make no statements to the police until you have spoken to legal counsel. Advise the police "I fully intend to cooperate with your investigation, but I must speak with legal council first". After that all you give them is name, DOB, and address. Most people are hanged because of comments they made to the police without speaking with a lawyer first.