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January 22nd, 2016, 09:03 AM
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Krakadawn you hit the nail on the head. thank you Sir
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January 22nd, 2016 09:03 AM
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January 22nd, 2016, 09:09 AM
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This brings me back in time. When I was 16 I was out hunting rabbits , one the property where the Windsor Raceway is or was now.
I came across 12 dead beagle s dead in the ditch, all had their belly's cut open.
I reported it to the police .
They investigated it and found an address on a box that contained some of the dogs.
Turns out they were all killed by a veterinarian that was testing out poison to euthanize dogs.
We were told the dump was closed and he just dumped them there.
That was back in 1964
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January 22nd, 2016, 09:44 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
bardern
I could never be a houndsman.
I hear ya.
When I started to deer hunt in my early 20's it was in one of those traditional camps that used hounds to chase the deer. I hunted with those guys for 5 years. Every year they brought new dogs to camp. If the new dogs didn't catch on they were eliminated at the end of the week. I never got the details of the methods for elimination however I knew they were no longer around so I put the pieces together. No way I could do that to a hunting dog.
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January 22nd, 2016, 11:04 AM
#14

Originally Posted by
bellerivercrossbowhunter
I hear ya.
When I started to deer hunt in my early 20's it was in one of those traditional camps that used hounds to chase the deer. I hunted with those guys for 5 years. Every year they brought new dogs to camp. If the new dogs didn't catch on they were eliminated at the end of the week. I never got the details of the methods for elimination however I knew they were no longer around so I put the pieces together. No way I could do that to a hunting dog.
It's not just Houndsmen. Any reputable working dog breeder culls to better their breed. It's in most breed organizations standards. Not mention every livestock farmer, it's a regular thing.
How would you feel if you wanted to buy a hunting dog and you got sold a cull from a 'dog trader'. You wouldn't be happy that you got screwed and now you got a dog that doesn't do what it was bred or sold to do. Especially when your talking thousands of dollars. So do you want culls going around in your breed? No
And anyone that thinks killing (HUMANELY) a wild animal is any different than a domesticated animal is not being realistic or has their head buried up their a*s so far they think there's a difference. Your sh** stinks too buddy.
If this was a hunter who shot his own dogs then the only thing I see wrong is the fact he dumped them in a public spot.
Last edited by 69firebird; January 22nd, 2016 at 11:09 AM.
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January 22nd, 2016, 11:19 AM
#15
I am not saying anything against houndsmen per say the good ones I know treat dogs very ethical. My friends who run hounds keep them very clean, well fed but they don't get a lot of interaction most of the year.
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January 22nd, 2016, 11:24 AM
#16

Originally Posted by
69firebird
It's not just Houndsmen. Any reputable working dog breeder culls to better their breed.
Not true.

Originally Posted by
69firebird
And anyone that thinks killing (HUMANELY) a wild animal is any different than a domesticated animal is not being realistic or has their head buried up their a*s so far they think there's a difference. Your sh** stinks too buddy.
May I take it your request to "keep it civil" has now expired?
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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January 22nd, 2016, 11:33 AM
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January 22nd, 2016, 11:34 AM
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January 22nd, 2016, 11:36 AM
#19
Great pics JB. Lots of love in those pictures.
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January 22nd, 2016, 11:37 AM
#20
Welsh- you are right about the 'civil' part I apologize. I just can't stay quiet when someone is being unrealistic.
Also let me re-phrase-- Any successful reputable working/hunting dog breeder culls. You have to if you want to maintain a standard.
Maybe some don't but they are selling even the poor ones for the extra cash. And I wouldn't call them reputable.
JB -Every litter has bad ones no matter the titles behind the sire and dam. You sir if you have whole litters that are winners, you should be writing books on genetics, have a room full of trophies and promoting your dogs world wide.
Last edited by 69firebird; January 22nd, 2016 at 11:40 AM.