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January 25th, 2016, 11:37 AM
#31
BUT they did not lose a war , we just failed to honour our contracts. They did not fight us ,they were on our side against the French and Americans.. Do you not know Canadian history? Or choose to ignore what parts you do not like. Also, ' how long do you think they would survive without us', sounds condescending to me, and could be construed as racism.
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January 25th, 2016 11:37 AM
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January 25th, 2016, 12:17 PM
#32
Has too much time on their hands
I guess what I am saying is that it is time to open all the books windows and doors. Let the people of Canada know how much is being given to the reservations show us were are tax dollars are being spent .what we have been doing for the last 60 years is not working for anybody.time for change .one of my dad's best friends is a native .he worked as a iron worker is whole life retired with a great pention in a beautiful new home with a new truck for himself and a new car for his wife who worked as a nurse till she retired. There home is payed for and thy have no debt .and live a great life with there kids and grand kids. It all comes down to choice. D
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January 25th, 2016, 12:22 PM
#33

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
....against the French ..... Do you not know Canadian history? Or choose to ignore what parts you do not like. ...
that means you don't like Quebec - what does that make you?
...or wait a second, didn't the French have a very different strategy with dealing with the natives than the English? as you side with the English, what does that make you?
...or did you just choose that part of history that suits your argument rather than the reality? what would that make you then?
It is the left who don't want that people are treated equal - put that entire racist BS (and so called political correctness) aside and you'll see that nobody would need them anymore.
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January 25th, 2016, 01:00 PM
#34
Some FN helped England defeat the French in North America then the Americans trying to move north . If I sided with the English in those past days, it makes me Canadian. No I am not a FN person, I just see an injustice that was done and continues to done, by reneging on signed deals.
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January 25th, 2016, 01:46 PM
#35

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Some FN helped England defeat the French in North America then the Americans trying to move north . If I sided with the English in those past days, it makes me Canadian. No I am not a FN person, I just see an injustice that was done and continues to done, by reneging on signed deals.
If you can show which "agreements were reneged on" which already haven't been settled in Court,I'd sure like to see them. I submit that the only ones that haven't been settled are really issues which have arisen in the past 20 years which were never covered under any treaty or agreement in the past.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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January 25th, 2016, 04:16 PM
#36
It's a very sad situation and complicated problem. I wish some leader ( aboriginal and federal govt.) could make some inroads into making life better for aboriginal folk , but I don't expect to see it in my life time.
Read the other day that First Nations folk weren't allowed to vote until 1960. Unbelievable.
" We are more than our gender, skin color, class, sexuality or age; we are unlimited potential, and can not be defined by one label." quote A. Bartlett
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January 25th, 2016, 06:26 PM
#37

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Some FN helped England defeat the French in North America then the Americans trying to move north . If I sided with the English in those past days, it makes me Canadian. No I am not a FN person, I just see an injustice that was done and continues to done, by reneging on signed deals.
No that would make you a BRITISH SUBJECT living in the EMPIRE OF BRITANNICA. RULE BRITANNICA RULE! and all that good stuff.
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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January 25th, 2016, 06:42 PM
#38

Originally Posted by
fishermccann
Some FN helped England defeat the French in North America then the Americans trying to move north . If I sided with the English in those past days, it makes me Canadian. No I am not a FN person, I just see an injustice that was done and continues to done, by reneging on signed deals.
Would you stick to that if they put in a land claim for property you own?
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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January 25th, 2016, 07:10 PM
#39
Fishermccan, here is my take on it, to my knowledge I have no FN blood coursing through my veins, also I've read quite a bit of the early history of the north American continent. We are their tenants, the FN are our landlord. Sadly, they have to keep taking us to court in order for them to get the rent we owe them. Our understanding was, all we had to do is to my a treaty with them and we could buy them out, and own this land. Their understanding was that we treated for the use of this land and not the ownership, and when we treated, we agreed to perpetually pay them rent as long as the sun shall rise. J T father when he repatriated our constitution invited Quebec to the table, but was up for giving the FN nothing. He withdrew that idea after a few supreme court judges had a talk with him. I can imagine what they said to him. However, did you ever wonder why it is that we get shut down every time we start a conversation about establishing any type of private property rights.
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
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January 25th, 2016, 09:13 PM
#40

Originally Posted by
Sharon
It's a very sad situation and complicated problem. I wish some leader ( aboriginal and federal govt.) could make some inroads into making life better for aboriginal folk , but I don't expect to see it in my life time.
Read the other day that First Nations folk weren't allowed to vote until 1960. Unbelievable.
They could always vote - if they gave up their treaty rights. The 1960 vote was to allow treaty Indians to vote.