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    All climate change comes from the sun!>that's it> I will tell you a little story and you can let it fall where you want it, I have spent all my life as a youth out side in southern BC and I would say about 30 years ago the sun went from a yellow to a white light. Why I have no understanding but for a person that spend a lot of time out side it was def>noted .

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    If you lived in Toronto the sun would be green some days and seeing we're pushing for a green environment, that would be a good thing, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kettle View Post
    The sun went from yellow to white. if you are a fat basterd and you sit inside your little world and slather the sun screen > you will never Know ! and talk about the change but never been out side to see the changes>99% haven't but they have big mouths for our world!
    Hey not sure where you are going with this........................ but this is a family friendly forum so please tone it down.
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    2186 Getting Ready To Puke

    Wanna see what idiots are thinking... follow them on Twitter.

    It is coming down the pipeline soon... or in respect to Montreal the sewer line... and are we going to get it. These idiots must have an automated machine or a dedicated person because I flipped it on before supper and they were gloating and they still are now...



    Just in the last little bit


    Justin Trudeau ‏@JustinTrudeau Justin Trudeau Retweeted Liberal Party
    Now is the time to work together to build a sustainable, low-carbon economy for all Canadians:




    Liberal Party Verified account ‏@liberal_party A new, cross-country framework for clean growth and environmental protection #FMM2016




    Kathleen Wynne Verified account ‏@Kathleen_Wynne
    Meeting w/ fellow premiers to talk about Ontario's plan to fight #climatechange & how we can collaborate #GLOBE2016

    Justin Trudeau ‏@JustinTrudeau 24m24 minutes ago
    Today, First Ministers agreed on a bold plan to create a cleaner economy. Our statement: http://bit.ly/1TWAIiz


    Gerald Butts Verified account ‏@gmbutts Every First Minister agrees to the Paris Declaration, the 2 degree target, and that we need carbon pricing to get there. #progress #fmm2016






    BUT back in reality!!!


    http://news.nationalpost.com/full-co...vel-has-banged
    Premiers unite against Ottawa’s carbon plan before the first gavel has banged
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    Canada may already be carbon neutral, so why are we keeping it a secret?

    Here’s a seemingly simple question: Is Canada a net carbon dioxide emitter? You would think so from reading news headlines. We’ve earned the scorn of environmentalists, NGOs, and media outlets galore, labelled with such juvenile epithets as “fossil of the year” or “corrupt petro-state.”

    Sadly, lost in all the hyperbole is the actual science. There is nothing quantitative about the vague idea that, as a “progressive nation,” Canada should be expected to “do more” to fight climate change.

    But therein lies the rub; Canada is poised to immediately do more to combat climate change than almost every other country in the world. How, you ask? Well, by doing more of the same. If that sounds ludicrous, let me explain.

    Most Canadians would agree that our response to climate change needs to be scientifically sound, environmentally sustainable and financially realistic, as well as global, comprehensive, and holistic. Right now, our approach is none of those things; the public discourse is driven by a myopic, ideological obsession with carbon emissions alone. What else is there, you ask?

    The answer comes from the most recent report (2014) of the Global Carbon Project, which states that global human-induced CO2 emissions were 36 billion tonnes. Of that, 36 per cent stayed in the atmosphere, 27 per cent was absorbed by water, and 37 per cent was absorbed by land.

    That’s right — absorbed by land! Not all CO2 emitted by people stays in the atmosphere. Much of it returns to the earth, mainly through the carbon absorption and sequestration power of plants, soil, and trees.
    Full comment - http://business.financialpost.com/fp...ng-it-a-secret

    "Taxing Canadians to try to make planet Earth greener is futile policy based on a half-blind approach that only considers emissions from our resources, not absorption from our land and forests."

    So long as we can get unsustainable clear cutting, deforestation and monoculture under control - here, there and everywhere, in the Boreal and in the Amazon - then ya, I suppose trees will take care of the CO2 problem.

    Protect our lands, forests and waters. Don't just say it. Do it. Get a handle on urban sprawl. Do away with ridiculous city bylaws against urban agriculture and animal husbandry. Eradicate invasive species. Stop the obsession with perfectly manicured, luscious green lawns and golf courses. Promote permaculture. Live with nature. Be part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awndray View Post
    Full comment - http://business.financialpost.com/fp...ng-it-a-secret

    "Taxing Canadians to try to make planet Earth greener is futile policy based on a half-blind approach that only considers emissions from our resources, not absorption from our land and forests."

    So long as we can get clear cutting, monoculture and tilling under control - here, there and everywhere, in the Boreal and in the Amazon - then ya, I suppose trees will take care of the CO2 problem.

    Protect our lands, forests and waters. Don't just say it. Do it. Get a handle on urban sprawl. Do away with ridiculous city bylaws against urban agriculture and animal husbandry. Eradicate invasive species. Stop the obsession with perfectly manicured, luscious green lawns and golf courses. Promote permaculture. Live with nature. Be part of it.


    Excellent post and link and thank you for sharing it with us.

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    I planted 2,000 pines in my backyard 20 years ago and now have a forest. Can I apply for a carbon tax credit Mr. Lieberal?

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    Just when it was all decided.... even though their models keep being wrong....

    http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/bl...-age-has-begun

    Enter Habibullo Abdussamatov of the Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the scientist who heads Russia’s space research laboratory and its global warming research using data collected by the International Space Station. Unlike other scientists in the global warming field who have had to continually backtrack, sidestep and spin erroneous findings when their models proved embarrassingly wrong, Abdussamatov’s studies over the last decade have stayed on course, in keeping with the actual temperature readings that ultimately provide a true measure of climate change.

    His latest study, published in Thermal Science, delivers this week’s second whammy. It continues the analysis he has long pursued, which consistently arrives at the same conclusion: Earth is now entering a new Little Ice Age, Earth’s 19th Little Ice Age, to be precise.



    Just when you think it is safe to buy more shorts for "winter" wear....the new thermal "summer" wear??

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    Canada has the gravy train rolling on again, 161 delegates this time.. #ClimateBarbie and #ClimateChickenLittle are in their elements

    https://www.therebel.media/ezra_leva...gation_exposed

    "Ezra showed you some of the 161 delegates "Climate Barbie" Catherine McKenna is bringing with her to the UN Climate Conference in Bonn."

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    https://globalnews.ca/news/4026679/d...-common-sense/
    The modern inquisition tactic is something known as a “strategic lawsuit against public participation,” or SLAPP lawsuit.

    The purpose of such a lawsuit is to silence critics by burdening them with the cost of legal bills until they shut up. Ball has been the target of three such lawsuits, which have cost him – along with the help of generous donors – more than $600,000 to defend. Well, he hasn’t shut up and he just won one of them.

    The “new science” is nothing of the sort, according to Ball. The science of climate change is based on computer modelling, not real world observations. The projections of catastrophe caused by man-made carbon dioxide emissions are based on computer modelling. The projections of rising sea levels swallowing coastal cities are based on computer modelling.

    As Ball reminds us, Alan Greenspan’s failure to predict the financial crisis was also based on computer modelling.
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    That fact that De Niro – an actor, not a climate scientist – is considered a more noteworthy commentator on climate change than Happer – a climate scientist – shows just how far we have drifted from the world of real science. It’s nice to know the courts aren’t willing to play along.

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